Redlight cameras and speed cameras : Is Big Brother going too far?

[GmanJoe]

Is it for your safety or to make more money? Or both?

discuss.




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What really constitutes running a red light?  Being in the intersection when its yellow and turns red?  If they are tagging people for that then it is a way to make money.  Every once in a while I gun it to beat a red light and am usually almost through the intersection before it turns red and definitely clear before the other light turns green.

And if there\'s cameras, maybe now you won\'t be driving recklessly through intersections. ;]

I hate the idea. Only because it\'ll cost a ton of money to set up and it only mean tons more instances where cops don\'t help you, they just write you tickets and create hassles.

I hate cops, and it\'s a shame because their job is supposed to be helpful to me.

-Eik

I hate cops blah blah blah till my house gets broken into.  We already had that topic. :rolleyes:

[GmanJoe]

Well, this thread ain\'t about cop hating or bashing. Just Big Brother watching over you.

Disgust.

We have red-light cameras everywhere around where I live... I definately don\'t run those anymore.  Even if you do get a ticket in the mail for running a red-light camera, if you fight it in court you can almost always get it thrown out.

There is this loophole in that you must be able to confront your accuser, it\'s kinda hard to do that with a camera.  It worked for a friend of mine.

[Kurt Angle]

We have red light cameras and speed cameras. Even mobile speed cameras in backs of police vans to catch unwary motorists. So much for catching real criminals. :rolleyes:

[GmanJoe]

Originally posted by JBean
We have red-light cameras everywhere around where I live... I definately don\'t run those anymore.  Even if you do get a ticket in the mail for running a red-light camera, if you fight it in court you can almost always get it thrown out.

There is this loophole in that you must be able to contront your accuser, it\'s kinda hard to do that with a camera.  It worked for a friend of mine.

And most people just roll over and pay the fine. They don\'t know they can fight it and win.

Originally posted by GmanJoe
Well, this thread ain\'t about cop hating or bashing. Just Big Brother watching over you.

Disgust.

Over here in the UK

Speed cameras = easy revenue for the police

In fact this is highlighted by North’s Wales chief constable, so far he has declared war on the motorist with the highest record for convictions traffic offences.

But like the Craptacular New Labour government behind them, they are short sighted

The SAME region has set the National Record on unsolved house robberys.

I fight every ticket I get, and they always either get reduced or thrown out.  I\'m currently fighting a $450 parking ticket.  There is no well in hell i\'m paying a fine that high.  Now i\'m just waiting to find out my court date.


It\'s a shame 80% of people who get tickets don\'t do anything to keep the government out of their wallet.  All it takes is one little discrepincy or technicality to get off... or your cop not showing up.

I wonder if they send tickets out to the cops that are speeding or running red lights? The pigs where I live speed more than any other driver even thinks about.

You mentioned Big Brother... are you suggesting that the cameras are being activated for some purpose OTHER than catching speeders and red light runners?  That would be interesting.

I personally hope they do everything they can to catch the IDIOTS who run red lights.  It is a huge problem here in LA where people are always trying to be the last one to sneak through the light.  With the traffic volume we have, it makes it very difficult for people to execute their left turn, in the many instances where there is no left turn arrow installed.

Doesn\'t London use camera\'s to spot people coming into the city? It seems as if I remember seeing that on the Discovery channel.

Yea, I don\'t mind the cameras either.  The main street through my suburb is always littered with cars.  Every time  theirs a green turn arrow they take advantage of it.  The arrow goes red and about 4 extra cars go out each time knowing you won\'t go out into the intersection and hit them.  Also about a year ago someone ran a red light and smeared the side of my moms car and since their was no witnesses they sited it no fault.  The lady just claimed the light was yellow and their was nothing we could do.  A camera would most definently catch something like that.

has anoyone got one of these I did but it was my brother-in-law Driving it was freaking hilarious It came in the mail and I was like OH SHIT my wife was furiouse that our insurance rates were gonna skyrocket and then there was his ugly mug freaking funny.