Hello

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Author Topic: Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.  (Read 6216 times)

Offline Deadly Hamster
  • (Actually a Human)
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2331
  • Karma: +10/-0
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« on: February 07, 2004, 02:13:56 PM »
link: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110509,00.html

This is very very scary to me, seriously, this is likeeeeee the final straw....

Patriot Act, RAVE act, and now this....

Government trying to remove our rights :(

Edit: And not to my suprise the democratic canidates are not going to go against him on this, because as always they are sissy bitches who put being president before what is actualy the right thing to do...
« Last Edit: February 07, 2004, 02:15:51 PM by Deadly Hamster »
It was a darkness all my own, a song played on the radio, It went straight to my heart - I carried it with me - until the darkness was gone.
- Bouncing Souls

Offline Jumpman

  • Legendary Poster
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7174
  • Karma: +10/-0
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2004, 02:23:59 PM »
The democrats have no power at the moment of course they won\'t oppose it would ruin their chance to make it "right" if they wanted to.

I guess the right thing to do according to you is to throw away their presidency chances in order to voice an insignificant opinion?
« Last Edit: February 07, 2004, 03:16:47 PM by Jumpman »
Who is this anamoly we call Jumpman? How is he able to do what he does and still survive after years of torment? It seems he feeds on the hate, growing with an intense passion to put unassuming members in their place.

Offline Phil
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2605
  • Karma: +10/-0
  • PSN ID: Slab_Serif
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2004, 02:56:16 PM »
There was plans to amend the state constitution too.  The whole thing has been doomed from the start.
Wrong. There are two other people who can.
Dark Lord Sith\'s.
Demon\'s named Phil.  -LIC

Offline Deadly Hamster
  • (Actually a Human)
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2331
  • Karma: +10/-0
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2004, 03:12:42 PM »
I understand that Jumpman, it is a valid point but it just sickens me.

You are right though, I just dont like how fake the presidential race is, and changes happen so slowly.
It was a darkness all my own, a song played on the radio, It went straight to my heart - I carried it with me - until the darkness was gone.
- Bouncing Souls

Offline Jumpman

  • Legendary Poster
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7174
  • Karma: +10/-0
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2004, 03:23:45 PM »
Don\'t worry, there\'s a large precentage of gay people living in America. You think any one of them would vote for Bush after hearing this?

"Eeeer yes to Bush because I don\'t think it\'s right to marry you?" -:ghey: Person.
Who is this anamoly we call Jumpman? How is he able to do what he does and still survive after years of torment? It seems he feeds on the hate, growing with an intense passion to put unassuming members in their place.

Offline Blade
  • Executive Officer
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2665
  • Karma: +10/-0
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2004, 03:40:57 PM »
Bush is trying to ban gay marriage.. so? The Patriot Act is here.. so?

38/50 states want gay marriage to be permanently banned. Massachusetts judges are the only reason while it\'s even a hot topic and they can/will be overruled.. and Vermont is the only state (out of 50, mind you) to allow gay marriage in any form and that\'s by civil unions. Maybe the Dems don\'t oppose it because they agree.
Blade
What is up, buttercup? Down is the new up.

Offline Deadly Hamster
  • (Actually a Human)
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2331
  • Karma: +10/-0
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2004, 03:43:54 PM »
If democracy is a dictatorship of the stupid then I don\'t want to be in a democracy.

Edit: And judges are fighting for the rights of eveyr man, something this country  has forgot about.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2004, 03:45:25 PM by Deadly Hamster »
It was a darkness all my own, a song played on the radio, It went straight to my heart - I carried it with me - until the darkness was gone.
- Bouncing Souls

Offline EmperorRob
  • Mr Sexual Harassment
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3932
  • Karma: +10/-0
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2004, 07:27:43 PM »
No, that would be our military.
This is America and I can still pay for sex with pennies

Offline Blade
  • Executive Officer
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2665
  • Karma: +10/-0
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2004, 08:19:12 PM »
Heh, you sound pretty wrapped up in liberal propaganda there Hamster. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Blade
What is up, buttercup? Down is the new up.

Offline clips

  • In ChArGe..Ya DiG?!
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7807
  • Karma: +10/-0
  • PSN ID: Blackgas7
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2004, 09:04:04 PM »
damn i can\'t belive i missed this...but uhm..what is the patriot act? i know i can look it up but i want somebody here to explain it.;)
knowledge, wisdom & understanding..these are the basic fundamentals of life

if you can\'t amaze them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh*t....

Offline fastson
  • Keyser Söze
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7080
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • http://
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2004, 05:39:31 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by clips
damn i can\'t belive i missed this...but uhm..what is the patriot act? i know i can look it up but i want somebody here to explain it.;)


I found this while visiting Lazlow\'s website (you know the radio dude in GTA3 and Vice City?)

Quote
Under the section S01 of the patriot act, a US citizen engaging in lawful activity  can be picked off the streets or from home and taken to a secrect tridunal with no access to or notification of a lawyer, the press of family. Sounds like 1940s German patriotism.

http://www.lazlow.com/

Hmm, ;)

Anyway, good job BUSHY.. You might just have kicked yourself out of that white building of yours!
\"Behold, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed\"
-Axel Oxenstierna 1648

Offline Blade
  • Executive Officer
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2665
  • Karma: +10/-0
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2004, 08:09:17 AM »
So? Were you living under Fraggle Rock during 2001 or something?

The government can\'t have its hands tied when trying to protect its citizens. Is the Patriot Act perfect? No. Is it necessary? Considering what is going on on US soil, perhaps.

If you\'ve done nothing wrong, what\'s there to be afraid of? Hmm? Only criminals and terrorists need to worry.
Blade
What is up, buttercup? Down is the new up.

Offline Deadly Hamster
  • (Actually a Human)
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2331
  • Karma: +10/-0
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2004, 10:32:04 AM »
It\'s is not liberal propaganda it is just the truth....

The government is taking away individual rights based on their moral opinion. The laws might not affect YOU Blade but that doesn\'t mean they don\'t affect others, and stop them from being free.....

I\'ll give examples if you want...
Under the RAVE act huge fines can be given to people who own property where drug use is taking place, This is a huge attack on small clubs etc all over the place.

Heterosexual married couples still get more money then gays, simply because they arn\'t gay.

Under the patriot act, people lose a bunch of rights that they had if they are ever suspected of a crime, for instance, a man at an animal rights protest was immediatly investigated for a vandalism crime just because he was at the protest.

How can you tell me any of those things are fair?
It was a darkness all my own, a song played on the radio, It went straight to my heart - I carried it with me - until the darkness was gone.
- Bouncing Souls

Offline ooseven
  • The TRUE Scot\'
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 10105
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • http://
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2004, 12:18:19 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Patriot Act, RAVE act, and now this....

Government trying to remove our rights :(



Didn\'t think you had any rights or freedom left ....

Bush & co have been Pissing on your bill of rights the day he bought his way into power.
“If you’re talking about sheep or goats, there could be some issues,” [/color]

Offline Blade
  • Executive Officer
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2665
  • Karma: +10/-0
Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2004, 12:48:36 PM »
So where\'s the line, DH? How many rights should you be allowed to have? What constitutes a right? What constitutes "free"? What is moral.. ethical? Basically, it\'s all a matter of opinion.

For example, PETA thinks that being ethical means going vegetarian. Okay.. and what\'s their reasoning? That God\'s creatures, quote on quote, deserve better. I guess these whack-jobs didn\'t read the Bible, perhaps they accidentally picked up an issue of Entertainment Weekly because it says right in Genesis that God wants man to use animals as he wishes. That would make PETA\'s ethics a little bit hypocritical, right?

Well, what can you do? Nobody ironed out the thousands of flaws in our law system. Humans aren\'t perfect, obviously. Anyways, onward to your next comment..

Quote
Under the RAVE act huge fines can be given to people who own property where drug use is taking place, This is a huge attack on small clubs etc all over the place


Certain drugs are illegal. Similar to the way we\'re going after countries that harbor terrorism (another enemy) we\'re going to penalize those who harbor criminals. Oooohhhh, I have to pay a large fine because I decided to break the law! That\'s so unfair and infringing on my rights! Ooooohhhhh! I\'m not going to defend anybody here, but you\'re arguing that we should be able to get away with criminal acts. Am I right, or no? I might have missed a beat.

Quote
Heterosexual married couples still get more money then gays, simply because they arn\'t gay.


What\'s your logic here? Heterosexual couples can have children naturally. This is more of a moral issue, though. To most people, marriage goes beyond just a legal bond. Anyways, I didn\'t notice gay marriage being much of an issue for the past ~220~ years we\'ve been an independent country. Homosexuals are perceived not to be natural by many (including myself) and thus many (the majority) would agree that we can\'t make exceptions for perversion from the natural. It\'s a like-it-or-lump-it situation, frankly. A quagmire. You like dicks? I\'d suggest praying that gay marriage goes into law, which it likely won\'t.

Quote
Under the patriot act, people lose a bunch of rights that they had if they are ever suspected of a crime, for instance, a man at an animal rights protest was immediatly investigated for a vandalism crime just because he was at the protest.


This is why I said you were wrapped up. You\'re just throwing things out there about losing civil rights (like the apparent "lack of responsibility for crimes one commits" right) which is something a lot of left-wing (and some right-wing, mind you) politicians are peddling. What rights are you talking about? You said it yourself.. he was investigated. Why? It sounds like he\'s been caught for committing acts of vandalism before.. which would mean it\'s on his record. If not, then they have the right to investigate him. He\'s in a big crowd of protestors, which is capable of such a thing.. and if he didn\'t do the crime, there should be no problem.

I\'m no newbie to this treatment. Only about a month ago, I was about to board a train when I was grabbed by a couple of cops who suspected me of committing a drug-related crime. They took me inside, searched and interrogated me.. at no point telling me why (I had to put the pieces together myself to figure it out) ... and eventually came to the conclusion that I was completely innocent. When my parents found out, they were quick to say it was unlawful and that I should do something legally.. but I personally thought, as it was happening.. that it was the right thing to do. What I would have done.

Sorry if I offended anybody with this post, but ehheh.. recently I\'ve decided to stop holding back. :)
Blade
What is up, buttercup? Down is the new up.

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk