History books in the schools

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Agree\'d. Every country leaves certain historical facts out in the history book. The best way to look at history and the history books is like this.

There is two sides to every story. You are really only reading one side .

MMM Victory was already assured for the allies. The Soviets were poised to jump into Japan from Korea or some shit like that. My understanding is, the US used the ABomb to end the war quicker, so The Soviets won\'t have to invate Japan, hence get control of some of it. They wanted to avoid the situation they had in Germany - East and West divided.

In retrospect, even if the reason was to prevent Japan from being divided like Germany, given what happened to East Germany and the problems that caused, and where Japan is today, it would still be a good reason. Germany is having extremely hard time integrating the east and the west while Japan, even in the current recession, is still the number 2 economy in the world. Japan came a long way since the bomb.

Also, while the deaths to American soldiers might not have been significant, to Japanese soliders AND civilians it might be. Consider this, over 100,000 people were killed in the "conventional" firebombing attacks at Tokyo. If this continued, AND was expanded, it was very likely that the death toll could\'ve been MUCH greater.

This however, is considering everything in retrospect. The truth is, no one knows what could\'ve been or how it would\'ve turned out.

And yes, history is told by one perspective. That is simply how the world works. It is always good to get other perspectives.

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Originally posted by Skyrider666
Did you guys know that Germany was really close to being the first with a nuke?

And they were developing a "stealth" bomber to use to get it to New York. Scary when you think about it.

I can\'t believe some actually think we dropped the bomb to show our power...  I also remember this argument here about the same exact thing not too long ago.  

More lives were saved on both sides due to the two bombs that were dropped.  The war would have gone on much longer if the US had to invade Japan.  I know some of you are are in love with anime and everything Japanese, but get a grip - Japan was wrong and deserved what they got in the end.  Who cares if a few old Japanese are still pissed - I am sure we can find a few vets from Pearl Harbor or some who were captured in the Phillipines to balance it out.  Its amazing that people love to bring up that they talked to so and so who was living in "insert enemy country here" when the US dropped "insert weapon here", but have never talked to veteran\'s from this country about what it was like for them or how they felt.

Oh and if you look in German schoolbooks - the years from 1933 to 1945 are mysteriously absent.  Nothing like forgetting to past - I wonder when they will be doomed to repeat it?  It is practically illegal to talk about the Third Reich.  All they know is Hitler was a naughty, naughty man.

Japan was wrong and deserved what they got in the end.

They attacked military ships and deserved the destruction of two civilian populations and lasting radioactive effects?

Pearl Harbor wasn\'t a huge loss of people, it was a small number compared to other events.

It isn\'t about the japanese being pissed, it is about using that kind of weaponry anywhere, it is just unacceptable.  I don\'t care what reasons you justify it with, it is too powerful a weapon.

NO ONE cared about civilians at the time. Not the Germans, not the British, not the Russians, not the Japanese, and yes, not even the Americans. You can\'t single out any group at the time to being morally superior to one another. Everyone\'s opinion here is all in retrospect.

[edit]Opinions that has been filtered by the changing time and changing morality I might add.

True, but that doesn\'t make any of them right, and I wouldn\'t justify any of them now.

The moral of the story is, wrap the gerbil in tape before you **** it, because it\'ll explode if you don\'t!