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« Reply #75 on: September 27, 2004, 10:01:51 PM »
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Hayden is there for good reason and it\'s explained in the commentary why.  It does make sense.  That doesn\'t mean I think the change is some great idea or anything like that, but I understand the reasoning behind it, especially since it serves continuity purposes.
OK, I just watched the end of Return of the Jedi (with commentary), and sorry... Lucas\' explanation isn\'t good enough.  There\'s no valid reason to replace Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christensen in that scene.  It makes no sense.  Lucas probably wanted to stick Ewan McGregor in that shot also, but someone probably warned him that even HE, the almighty Lucas,  couldn\'t crap on Alec Guinness\' memory in that way.

There are only a few good scenes in Return of the Jedi, but that\'s not enough for me to want to see it again for a long long time.  The Empire Strikes Back however, holds up very well.  It\'s still the best of all the SW films, and it cannot be equaled.  The editing, the score, the style, and the quality of the acting performances... all of it blows away the other films.  I have spoken.
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« Reply #76 on: September 28, 2004, 03:10:00 AM »
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OK, I just watched the end of Return of the Jedi (with commentary), and sorry... Lucas\' explanation isn\'t good enough.  There\'s no valid reason to replace Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christensen in that scene.  It makes no sense.  Lucas probably wanted to stick Ewan McGregor in that shot also, but someone probably warned him that even HE, the almighty Lucas,  couldn\'t crap on Alec Guinness\' memory in that way.

There are only a few good scenes in Return of the Jedi, but that\'s not enough for me to want to see it again for a long long time.  The Empire Strikes Back however, holds up very well.  It\'s still the best of all the SW films, and it cannot be equaled.  The editing, the score, the style, and the quality of the acting performances... all of it blows away the other films.  I have spoken.


Spot on with that analysis there.

Apart from the lightsaber duel between DV & LS, ROTJ is pretty bland, those furry little teddy bear ewok things do nothing to adhere the film to me as much as the first 2.

The empire strikes back was by far the best of the bunch for me.
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« Reply #77 on: September 28, 2004, 03:24:46 AM »
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OK, I just watched the end of Return of the Jedi (with commentary), and sorry... Lucas\' explanation isn\'t good enough.  There\'s no valid reason to replace Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christensen in that scene.  It makes no sense.  Lucas probably wanted to stick Ewan McGregor in that shot also, but someone probably warned him that even HE, the almighty Lucas,  couldn\'t crap on Alec Guinness\' memory in that way.

There are only a few good scenes in Return of the Jedi, but that\'s not enough for me to want to see it again for a long long time.  The Empire Strikes Back however, holds up very well.  It\'s still the best of all the SW films, and it cannot be equaled.  The editing, the score, the style, and the quality of the acting performances... all of it blows away the other films.  I have spoken.



err it does make sense.... When Anakin becomes Vader, who he is as Anakin dies and is reborn as Vader (explained in part 3)  When Luke brings him back to the light side he is still Vader, therefore dies as Vader. So it makes perfect sense that when he\'s now part of the force (ghost whatever) he\'s Anakin again..
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« Reply #78 on: September 28, 2004, 03:47:44 AM »
I agree with Soully.

It makes sense to me too.

Can also look at it as they are shown as how they died.

ANakin dies in episode 3 looking the way he does in episode 6.  Well technically he dies when he becomes Vader.
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« Reply #79 on: September 28, 2004, 06:31:03 AM »
But he didn\'t really die when he became Vader.  That\'s what Obi Wan says in ROTJ to cover his ass for his earlier lie to Luke, but it\'s later proven untrue.  Luke says that "there\'s still good in him"  and Anakin says "you were right."  Obviously the "good" Anakin didn\'t completely die during whatever trauma that occured in episode III.  He died as Anakin on the deck of the Death Star II, so I think he should appear as that adult, mature figure after he joins the Force.  That would be be in keeping with Obi Wan joining the Force as Alec Guinness instead of Ewan McGregor.
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« Reply #80 on: September 28, 2004, 07:31:43 AM »
I wanted to beat Lucas with a dead Ewok when I saw he changed the ending of Jedi. Hokey smokes! I was surprised to hear myself scream "NOOOOOOOOOO!"
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« Reply #81 on: September 28, 2004, 06:41:55 PM »
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I agree with Soully.

It makes sense to me too.

Can also look at it as they are shown as how they died.

ANakin dies in episode 3 looking the way he does in episode 6.  Well technically he dies when he becomes Vader.


But Anakin was reborn at the end of Episode 6 :vader:
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« Reply #82 on: September 28, 2004, 07:36:18 PM »
I think I may have gotten a defective DVD.  I watched A New Hope yesterday and it was fine.  However I tried watching the Empire Strikes Back, and it did not work.  So I tried the other two disc, and they did work.

WTF?  Did I get a bad ESB DVD?

This is on my computer mind you.
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« Reply #83 on: September 29, 2004, 01:36:08 AM »
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I think I may have gotten a defective DVD.  I watched A New Hope yesterday and it was fine.  However I tried watching the Empire Strikes Back, and it did not work.  So I tried the other two disc, and they did work.

WTF?  Did I get a bad ESB DVD?

This is on my computer mind you.


Not to be a smartass - but I think you answered your own question.

Let me break it down..

New Hope = Plays
Empire Strikes back = Does not Play.
Return of the Jedi = Plays.
Extra Disc = Plays.

Hmm. My brilliant logical deduction comes up with the theory that you do indeed have a defective disc!

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There are only a few good scenes in Return of the Jedi, but that\'s not enough for me to want to see it again for a long long time. The Empire Strikes Back however, holds up very well. It\'s still the best of all the SW films, and it cannot be equaled. The editing, the score, the style, and the quality of the acting performances... all of it blows away the other films. I have spoken.


Oddly enough Empire Strikes Back was the one Star Wars film where Lucas did not have total control and was even directed by someone else.
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« Reply #84 on: September 29, 2004, 03:33:32 AM »
he should have just let someone else run with his ideas, he thinks about selling action figures too much, hence we get jar jar binks.
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« Reply #85 on: September 29, 2004, 04:49:15 AM »
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he should have just let someone else run with his ideas, he thinks about selling action figures too much, hence we get jar jar binks.


That is really what he has done with the Expanded Universe.. In a recent interview with Mr.Lucas he talks about how after Episode III he wants to let other people run with the idea\'s , maybe with a TV series. Should be interesting, tho\' I can\'t say I care for the current Clone Wars series.

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« Reply #86 on: September 29, 2004, 05:37:02 AM »
When anakin became vader who he was died. its that simple. Part 3 is going to show u exactly how anakin dies.

when vader dies after luke brings him back to the light side. He isn\'t anakin.. He is still vader.... (more machine then man, etc)
Also, obiwan says that vader is lukes father, but he also explains that when he became vader, anakin died.. It just depends on the point of view...
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« Reply #87 on: September 29, 2004, 06:06:13 AM »
Ok, should I call Amazon or the company that makes the DVDs?
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« Reply #88 on: September 29, 2004, 07:07:22 AM »
Amazon, infact, just e-mail them. They will replace it.

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« Reply #89 on: September 29, 2004, 07:39:32 AM »
Amazon is the easiest retailer to deal with when it comes to returns.  You just go to the website, view your previous order, and click the button or whatever to return it.  You can print a return mailing label from the website.
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