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Offline Living-In-Clip

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If we freed the Iraqi\'s, what about North Korea?
« on: February 11, 2004, 09:32:44 PM »
With all the talk of no WoMD being found in Iraq and Bush\'s "Axis of Evil", it seems we have overlooked North Korea, someone who is openly doing a nuclear program and now evidence is being leaked out that they are testing CHEMICAL WEAPONS ON PEOPLE.

 N. Korea testing chemical weapons on humans.

Should the US respond? If not - why? Any other thoughts?

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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2004, 09:50:29 PM »
Well everything bad about Bush has already been said.

They have to know. Unless they want to make themselves look like a bunch of hypocrites...
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2004, 10:21:22 PM »
All I know is my dad is in South Korea right now and I would feel much better not getting into any conflict with North Korea.

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2004, 10:22:04 PM »
I know i have talked alot of smack about bush & his handling of the iraq war. But he\'s now faced with a country that has wmd and the means to deliver them..it also seems that they are in cahoots with china..which makes this situation very ugly. anybody remember when china stormed on those college students who were protesting peacefully?..If n.korea is performing these horrific acts then who\'s to say that china is not down with them.

It could prove grave if the u.s. chooses another pre-emptive strike as the military is strained beyond it\'s limits and it\'s too much to risk a retaliation from n.korea as i feel we may be able to take out a few of their missles but i feel at least one will get by our defenses and it will be catastrophic. And would china sit back and do nothing? hard to say,..best to play it safe with n.korea & go the diplomatic route as it\'s too risky to call their bluff.

ps:there was also an incident between the u.s. & china a few years back..i think it involved a u.s. spy plane that was flown into china airspace & two china fighter planes coached the spy plane to land..i\'m not sure what happened as a result but i know  the chinese military stripped down the whole plane..must have been incredibly embarassing to the bush adm.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2004, 11:32:54 PM »
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All I know is my dad is in South Korea right now and I would feel much better not getting into any conflict with North Korea.


Man that really sucks. I wish the best for your dad. But I\'m sorry if NK is really that much of a threat they must be handled. I\'m not praising Bush at all, but it\'s his job to secure this Country without lies. And this doesn\'t seem to come from bad intelligence.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2004, 01:25:02 AM »
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Should the US respond? If not - why? Any other thoughts?


Nahhh......I mean  come onthey have DO have WMD, and it might end up like another Vietnam.

Plus i don\'t think there is any OIL in North Korea ;)
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2004, 11:41:31 AM »
I doubt that it would end up like another Vietnam...it might end up WORSE because since they have a nuke.

Not to mention, North Korea IS China\'s puppet. What North Korea has, China allows. Getting China to do something with North Korea would be productive. Also, Seoul is only 30 miles away, if we went to war with North Korea immediately, Seoul would be gone before we get to the border. This is supposing that they have a nuke thanks to our buddy Bill Clinton (why are you bring up Clinton? Clinton Basher! But the sole reason why they have nukes and are a problem now IS because of Clinton [he made the deal in which North Korea recieved food while they promised not to develop any nukes. A promise they obviously peed away]). This is why deplomacy is important. If not, then the other solution would be to nuke North Korea before they nuke us, or its neighbor (South Korea and Japan in particular). Which again, might not be in time if they striked first in Seoul.

[edit]I\'m all for regime change in North Korea. But different circumstances require different solutions.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2004, 11:55:50 AM »
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ps:there was also an incident between the u.s. & china a few years back..i think it involved a u.s. spy plane that was flown into china airspace & two china fighter planes coached the spy plane to land..i\'m not sure what happened as a result but i know  the chinese military stripped down the whole plane..must have been incredibly embarassing to the bush adm.



It was April of 2001 and the plane wasin international air space.  It colided with a fighter and landed in China.  They stripped it down.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2004, 12:26:11 PM »
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It was April of 2001 and the plane wasin international air space.  It colided with a fighter and landed in China.  They stripped it down.


And the Chinese pilot\'s name was Wong Wei. American pilots frantically called to him on the radio "WRONG WAY! WRONG WAY!" But Wong Wei misunderstood and thought they were calling to him to get closer. :p

Okay.....His name IS Wong Wei....the rest I made up. :p
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2004, 12:35:16 PM »
LOL!:laughing::laughing::laughing:

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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2004, 02:56:35 PM »
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With all the talk of no WoMD being found in Iraq and Bush\'s


People are so misconcepted with the term Weapons of Mass Destruction. The media and the citizens are led to believe that a weapon of mass destruction is a giant bomb that goes BOOM. A weapon of mass destruction can be a few blocks of C4 strapped to a man\'s chest. Also what is a WMD is CHEMICAL WEAPONS. Something that Hussein had and was told to dispose of. The nuclear weapons aren\'t really what our troops are searching for. The media just put so much out about it that made people believe that is what we are looking for. What is a WMD is any chemical, biological, explosive and the things that deliver them. This is what Hussein has and this is what our troops are looking for. My dad is in the Army and works with WMDs and is the one who told me all this incase any of you want to know.
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2004, 03:23:11 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2004, 03:28:35 PM »
We had to go after the lesser of two evils.

**** Bush, you can quote me on that. I was watching cspan, and someone in the house of representitives was giving a speech on him. Did you know that the last 4 presidents all entered office with $40 billion to use, and that Bush got it to -$500 billion IN 3 YEARS.

He lied about the WMD\'s, he went against the UN, and now we\'re in danger of another war that we\'re not prepared for.

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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2004, 03:45:47 PM »
Don\'t worry, we will be moving up a step with Kerry in 2004, but it is still a small step in the big picture. But I like the guy, except for his drug policies.
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2004, 04:13:26 PM »
North Korea was a problem that started WAY before Bush. It is a problem that will NOT be easily solved no matter what anyone says (Clinton certainly didn\'t do it. In fact, he actually made it worse since North Korea [under Clinton] was supposed to get rid of their nuclear program...which they didn\'t).

Kerry will be every lefties wet dream. Granted, he isn\'t as insanely liberal as Kucinich (mayor who litterally ran Cincinatti to the ground financially [:rolleyes:]), but he is quite liberal in many of his ideologies. Its scary to think that anyone thinks he has any "conservative" leanings. Then again, given his flipflopping stances on issue (INCLUDING the war in Iraq. He voted for giving Bush authorization to go to war. Even though he now is trying to spin his way and say he is against it now), I can see where the true blue liberal could have problems with him. But if he does get into office, he will deffinetly move this nation left (and IMO, the wrong direction).
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