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Who\'s going to watch "Passion of the Christ"?
« Reply #75 on: February 26, 2004, 06:59:45 PM »
What the **** are you talking about...I mentioned that I was raised Catholic. It has nothing to do with Gibson being a Traditional Catholic...Where does that come in anyways?


Traditionalist Catholics are alot different than all other Catholics...Nimrod.
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« Reply #76 on: February 26, 2004, 07:54:22 PM »
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Is BLOOD and GORE necessary so that people can understand the suffering of Jesus?


Yes... what other method would you use? In fact, thats what great about this movie is that it is real, and does not sugarcoat anything, what you see is what you get.

And SirMystiq, you have to admit you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to religion, your posts from the last 5 months easily show it....

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« Reply #77 on: February 26, 2004, 08:07:59 PM »
You guys are weird.  Can\'t mention anything religious without people arguing and tossing **** at each other.

Anyway...  I just came back from the movie.  It\'s the most powerful movie I\'ve ever seen in my life.  The only thing I can imagine being wrong or overdone is... nothing.  It IS gory, it IS powerful.  But to say these two things never happened in our world is dumb.

I was holding back tears and the imagery of the things not taken directly from the Bible is very believable and only adds to the atmosphere.  Whether you\'re a spiritual person I think you\'ll find this movie very mesmerizing.  If you see it you have official bitching rights in this thread. :)
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« Reply #78 on: February 26, 2004, 08:21:01 PM »
Well i agree with THX , it is very powerfull and for me it really shows how big a sacrafice he went trought ...  without sugarcoating it like people say ... but its real ...  a reality check i guess
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« Reply #79 on: February 26, 2004, 08:50:03 PM »
Listing to what you are saying. The "blood" was real. The "gore" was real. Showing this only appeals to how much suffering and gore a person can take. Blood and gore doesn\'t not sum up to be the true meaning behind Jesus\' coming. First off, he died because he made the decision to die. Second, the Jews had more than enough reasons to kill him once you know their history. Third, the "suffering" was not the stuff he went through. The suffering was that it all happened because he sacrificed himself for the sins of humans. That\'s the suffering. This movie is just pure hollywood graphics.
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« Reply #80 on: February 26, 2004, 09:22:17 PM »
It meant more to many.  Hollywood graphics don\'t make people cry, stories do.

I see what you are saying about you wanted it to go deeper, but this movie was meant more or less for people who already knew the story.  I knew who Pontius Pilot was, who Judas was, what the Last Supper was, who Mary Magdelen was, etc...  I was satisfied that it focused on Jesus\' suffering and how the flashbacks showcased what his life meant to different people.  I thought it was very touching and not just an exhibition on Hollywood special FX.
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« Reply #81 on: February 27, 2004, 03:12:20 AM »
Ah you babies. You should be glad you were born in an English speaking country, or you\'d read subtitles all the time. :D

Actually I don\'t think it\'s that bad. I\'m glad foreign movies are subtitled here in Denmark and not dubbed. DUBBING IS SO FRIGGING BAD AND LAME! I can watch a gazillion German TV channels but I never watch them because they dub everything in German. Imagine Arnold Schwarzenegger saying I\'LL BE BAAACK in German... the horror.

Besides, sometimes you can miss something people say because of noise, either in the picture or in the real world. Subs make it easier to get it \'all\'. Of course it\'s pretty easy over here since most - if not all - adults speak English, and only have to rely on subtitles for unknown or hard-to-hear words.

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« Reply #82 on: February 27, 2004, 07:34:00 AM »
I will say this that Mary Magdelene could have been his wife and supposedly maybe even bore his child. What you read in the bible has been written and rewritten until one MAN liked it. The catholic church is a bunch of crap IMO.

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« Reply #83 on: February 27, 2004, 07:42:27 AM »
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Ah you babies. You should be glad you were born in an English speaking country, or you\'d read subtitles all the time. :D

Actually I don\'t think it\'s that bad. I\'m glad foreign movies are subtitled here in Denmark and not dubbed. DUBBING IS SO FRIGGING BAD AND LAME! I can watch a gazillion German TV channels but I never watch them because they dub everything in German. Imagine Arnold Schwarzenegger saying I\'LL BE BAAACK in German... the horror.

Besides, sometimes you can miss something people say because of noise, either in the picture or in the real world. Subs make it easier to get it \'all\'. Of course it\'s pretty easy over here since most - if not all - adults speak English, and only have to rely on subtitles for unknown or hard-to-hear words.

Subtitles > dubbing any day.


For me I hate subs. I do not go the theater too see movies that have subtitles.

I waked out on crouching tiger because of subs. Probably at home I would watch one but I would never goto a theater and see one.

I go to the show for entertainment not too sit and read. If I wanted to read I would take and extra college class.
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« Reply #84 on: February 27, 2004, 02:20:24 PM »
This is really a damn shame.  Passion moves so slow, you have more than enough time to read ONE LINE of text when its just a still face on the screen.

I love subtitles, I can\'t imagine watching (hearing) a Kurosawa movie in English.  It would lose the soul, or edge that gave his characters life in the films.  Everyone\'s different yes, but you have to realize what you\'re missing if you won\'t open yourself up to a different culture\'s language.

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« Reply #85 on: February 27, 2004, 07:24:45 PM »
Kind of a mixed bag for me really.  I get that he suffered and that sucks, but the message of all that suffering, the reasons behind it, and the forgiveness he tried to tell us all to display, to love your fellow man, despite his ignorance, was totaly lost.  There was only one moment where Jesus conveyed this message -- during a flashback no less -- at a moment that was one of the most powerful in the film during a scene, which is the obvious motif of the whole film, where Romans are beating the blood right out of his open wounds and we\'re supposed to understand that from all this?  I don\'t think so.

Let me put it this way, suppose you\'re watching another movie where the carnage is high and the suffering is nigh unbearable, say saving private ryan, and one of the lieutenants on Omaha Beach stands up in the middile of all the blood letting, soldiers losing legs, arms, our nations sons dying because of some dictator with a screw loose, and says to the people in the theatre, "love thy enemy for there is no reward in only loving those who love you."  What would be your reaction to this?  Would you agree?  Different movies, sure enough, but be reasonable here, the message is of forgiveness and love despite death and pain and here we are complementing the realistic gore and the pain he must have felt.

I don\'t know about anyone else, but there was never any doubt that he went through a great deal of pain with the crucifixion, no doubt in my mind at all at least, but the overall message was totaly lost.  I have to agree, for one of the first times ever, with the review from the New York Times.  They pretty much "nailed it" on that one.  Yes yes, I\'m going to hell for that one, I know.  ;)
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« Reply #86 on: February 27, 2004, 07:39:34 PM »
I know of a few people that are going just because they heard that the movie has a lot of blood and gore.....probably one of the most messed up comments I\'ve heard from kids at my school.
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« Reply #87 on: February 27, 2004, 08:28:51 PM »
well ... thats not true .. when he his on the cross he says ," forgive them father for they know not what they do " then the guy next to him on the cross looks at the romans and says " looks he his praying for YOU "   ... and never in my mind have i imagined that he suffered that much ... never has a movie showed it so realisticaly ... anyway i loved it ... for me it was a very powerfull movie ... but we all have the right to our opinions :)
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« Reply #88 on: February 27, 2004, 09:05:50 PM »
He\'s praying for forgiveness of all men for their sins, but it was a sidenote during the whole film.  "Oh wow, he SO suffered, it was SO brutal, it SO sucked for him and all those who worshipped him!  oh and don\'t forget to love your fellow man despite all this too.

I just didn\'t feel it.
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« Reply #89 on: February 28, 2004, 06:58:14 AM »
Point taken !   but in the end Mel gibson wanted to make a movie about the last 12 hours realisticaly and according to the 4 gospels.  In the end what he wanted was done right. So i guess it just down\'t appeal to you wich is good coz everybody is different and  thats whats makes the world a world
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