GTA: San Andreas confirmed and dated

I myself can\'t wait. I really like non linear games, or almost non linear . The ability to do almost as you wish has always hooked me. My question is, playstation exclusive hurrah. BUT WHAT ABOUT PC? There has to be a pc version please :shocked:
What do you guys think?

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I\'m not one to believe that because the masses like something then it means it\'s good. Was the original Mortal Kombat good? Not really, but the violence sold it and I think the same can be said about GTA.

I d like to hear again what makes GTA so great and unique.

Its a superb game for a past time but it certaintly isnt a game expressing creativity.

It never impressed me.

I prefer spending my time trying to imporve my skills on Devil May Cry1 on Dante Must Die mode that truelly shows the marvel of its gameplay mechanics, or even better REZ a game purely playing with the senses.THATS what I call originality and creativity

Games like GTA underestimate gamers\' intelligence.Gamers arent just a banch of guys that want to KILL KILL SPLATTER BLOOD SHOOT SLAY F*CK etc in a virtual world.

I want to see a game that shows not just skills in programming and presenting realistically violence but talent and imagination

Originally posted by ooseven
Whhhaaaoooooo if thats not Eliteism ... i don\'t know what is.

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Edit: If you want to see my statement in action go play enter the matrix.  The game sold extremely well and I know a lot of people that love it, but good god if you can\'t see that the game was poorly designed and very rushed then you are blind.  It\'s a rent title at best.

Rez? Creative, sure but the sensual aspect is barely there. Not only that but its not that hard. I have it and i do like it but i dont think its all of what i thought you were trying to say.

As far as the GTA series goes, I enjoyed them and then at certain times they just bored me. Its hard to say what makes the game truely stand out as a decent game because somebody will always nit pick at something because THEY think its not that good.

For instance, LIC, who i highly respect (most of the time), doesnt always fully listen. Either that or you dont care. Hopefully the latter my friend:

Violence is not original. It\'s been done in every form of entertainment. It also does not always equal good fun. If it is pulled off with grace, then yes, but when the gameplay has fundmental flaws such as control / graphics, then the violence only serves to distract the player from the obvious flaws of the game\'s engine..

He never said violence was original. And i see no problem in terms of control. Not only that, but i also dont see how the car phisics are S***. Its not meant to be real, but i know you know that already.

Violence with grace? Give me an example because i dont know how you would distinguish between the two types if there are any at all. The game is supposed to be almost slapstick type gameplay. If thats not what you like then thats that.

The graphics.... well yes we can all agree that they are by far nowhere near great and im almost pondering if they are even good, but "supposedly" RS is juicing out all it can to do what they are doing now. Im not so sure but im not going to argue that point  

Basically, there arent too many games like this one in terms of its completely free gameplay, for the lack of a better word, zany music and crazy almost stupid humor/game play. Im not praising this game by any means, but i AM saying that it is not complete horse shit, fresh from the donkey\'s ass.

Shenmue??? never played it,have you got another game that has real substance I might have played?

P.S. I liked Mortal Kombat,don\'t forget there were fighting games like Fatal Fury back then.

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We\'ll have to agree on disagree\'ing.

I can almost see the appeal of GTA, due to the fact you are in an active virtual world, playing as a hitman. What else could you want? Right? Well, my complaints are based on engine. It has fundemental flaws that have never been improved upon. Yet, this next one is almost gurantee\'d to be a hit. Why? Simple, violence sells. Like I mentioned earlier, Mortal Kombat is a great example of this. The first game was not that great, but due to the blood and over-the-top violence it was a hit, even if the fighting engine wasn\'t on par with Capcom or SNK\'s efforts. Of course, the game went on to sell millions, become an established franchise. Eventually, Midway realized they dug themselves in a whole. The violence had become a gimmick, it wasn\'t "as appealing" and people wanted more. I think Rockstar will find themselves in the exact same position eventually. All of their hit games have been based on violence.

GTA was just a fun game. Plain and simple. I remember putting it in and just having fun racing around the city or running from the cops. Its just good mindless fun. Not everything has to be a life changing experience. Can\'t people just have fun once and a while?

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So 50 Cent and Eminem are rumored to have a hand in the game\'s development (either voice actors or soundtrack)...

Does it always have to be a thuglife environment?  I\'d like one GTA more focused around the mob or even big corporations... would jsut be a nice spin on it all.

Originally posted by THX
Does it always have to be a thuglife environment?  I\'d like one GTA more focused around the mob or even big corporations... would jsut be a nice spin on it all.

Weren\'t GTA3 AND Vice City focused around the mob? What was the "Thuglife environment" of those two games?

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I can\'t wait to be like my favorite rappers and shoot some hommies.

Yea true, the mob parts seem to pass over my head more for some reason.  The ones that stick out in my mind is the Spanish "cojones" guy and all the slums.  I\'m thinking more a game centered around Godfather III, like he\'s Pacino\'s errand boy making CEO\'s offers they can\'t refuse, etc..

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Originally posted by THX
Yea true, the mob parts seem to pass over my head more for some reason.  The ones that stick out in my mind is the Spanish "cojones" guy and all the slums.  I\'m thinking more a game centered around Godfather III, like he\'s Pacino\'s errand boy making CEO\'s offers they can\'t refuse, etc..

That would be somewhat cool, to be honest. In all honesty, Rockstar should of waited for the next generation for this installment. It is going to be hard to make the same impact graphics wise, with such a dated engine. While this installment may keep interest alive, it could also serve to "more of the same thing" which will only hurt the franchise in the long run.

With how much time Rockstar have taken for GTA: SA (compared to Vice City, at least) I\'d say there\'s a chance they\'ve upgraded the graphics enginge a bit.

Originally posted by Black Samurai
GTA was just a fun game. Plain and simple. I remember putting it in and just having fun racing around the city or running from the cops. Its just good mindless fun. Not everything has to be a life changing experience. Can\'t people just have fun once and a while?

Yeah in GTA but man when vice city rolled around it was the same old thing over and over. I am not one for repetition. I need change. Doing the samethings over and over again can get very boring.

VC was ok but way over hyped.