WTF PS3 screens already?

Uhm the tech demos for PS2 looks pretty damn good if you ask me, a lot better than anything that\'s been released so far on the system. But that\'s not so surprising considering they only showed small specific demos which only rendered a pool of water or a face for instance. They never showed a gaming scenario in their tech demos, which was misleading IMO.

Yeah, I know you\'re right, but I must honestly say that I miss the days when the PS1 took over from the SNES and Mega Drive... it seemed (at that time) like such a huge jump.  Eveything went from 2d to 3d, from cartridge to CD, from digital to analog... it was a huge change.  Since then I havn\'t been impressed much.

Till, this day I think that this generation of consoles had much prettier graphics and the environments far by miles larger than the 32 bit (64 bit) era....... but it wasn\'t as WOW as it was made out to be:rolleyes:

I have the feeling the same will happen again, the graphics and scale will improve, the sound can\'t really improve because 5.1 is currently the thing, the controller is still analog and vibrates, it\'s still 3d and can\'t go much further, it\'s still DVD based (probably the new blue lazer technology that can hold more info, but is still DVD)....... I mean think about it, how much more can really be done to really excite us gamers besides graphics and scale?

A few years ago I always told my mates, and i\'m sure you all did aswell, "Can you imagine when games will be like the real thing!!!... Playing a game that looks like a movie!!!".... and now that it is around the corner i\'m thinking to myself, if it is really so wonderful as I was imagining those years ago.:rolleyes:

What do you all think?

Originally posted by JP
Uhm the tech demos for PS2 looks pretty damn good if you ask me, a lot better than anything that\'s been released so far on the system.
But that\'s not so surprising considering they only showed small specific demos which only rendered a pool of water or a face for instance. They never showed a gaming scenario in their tech demos, which was misleading IMO.

Yes they did.. Remember the skeleton demo? FFVIII dancing demo? Tekken Demo? All are not-so-great (perhaps Tekken demo only holds up today) by todays standards IMO.

Of course the face demo was nice, but IMO it has been surpassed by SH3 and SH4.. The pool of water demo also has an equivalence in Dark Cloud 2 (fish tank).

I disagree. heh.

Anyway, on topic again; I\'m not impressed by any of those pictures.

Either it\'s an April\'s Fool joke or it\'s concept art based on what some guy (tm) thinks next-gen will bring to the table.

We\'ll have to wait for the real thing either way, and even then, it won\'t be representative of what a real next-gen game would look like (especially a launch game).

After watching some of the PS2 early tech-demos now in 2004, I don\'t think they look THAT great anymore, except for a few ones, like the old man\'s head (when the only thing you\'re doing is rendering a head on screen, you can concentrate all your resources on it).

I think that a lot of people have an idealized vision of how great they looked (I\'m talking about the real time ones only).

Originally posted by Falgarok
After watching some of the PS2 early tech-demos now in 2004, I don\'t think they look THAT great anymore, except for a few ones, like the old man\'s head (when the only thing you\'re doing is rendering a head on screen, you can concentrate all your resources on it).

I think that a lot of people have an idealized vision of how great they looked (I\'m talking about the real time ones only).

Oh I agree. They don\'t look all that great anymore compared to newer Xbox and PC games. But I disagree with what fastson said, that they look really bad compared to newer PS2 games. Which I don\'t think they do.

Originally posted by dawid22
Yeah, I know you\'re right, but I must honestly say that I miss the days when the PS1 took over from the SNES and Mega Drive... it seemed (at that time) like such a huge jump.  Eveything went from 2d to 3d, from cartridge to CD, from digital to analog... it was a huge change.  Since then I havn\'t been impressed much.

Till, this day I think that this generation of consoles had much prettier graphics and the environments far by miles larger than the 32 bit (64 bit) era....... but it wasn\'t as WOW as it was made out to be:rolleyes:

I have the feeling the same will happen again, the graphics and scale will improve, the sound can\'t really improve because 5.1 is currently the thing, the controller is still analog and vibrates, it\'s still 3d and can\'t go much further, it\'s still DVD based (probably the new blue lazer technology that can hold more info, but is still DVD)....... I mean think about it, how much more can really be done to really excite us gamers besides graphics and scale?

A few years ago I always told my mates, and i\'m sure you all did aswell, "Can you imagine when games will be like the real thing!!!... Playing a game that looks like a movie!!!".... and now that it is around the corner i\'m thinking to myself, if it is really so wonderful as I was imagining those years ago.:rolleyes:

What do you all think?

Oh yeah.I miss the shift from 2D to 3D.It was a whole new experience.
Gameplay also felt different.3D controls, physics etc implemented for the first time.And we got superb quality of sound compared to the 16 bit consoles.
Man!I still remember when I poped my first game in my PS1.I was BLOWN AWAY!TOTALLY!!That was Wipeout!!The sound, the music, the graphics, the feel of the game....Damn that was probably my first orgasm

I was waiting to see the same difference from 32 bit to 128.But the difference is nothing compared to back then.
I had high expectations when PS2 was announced.Expected to be blown away.
I was to some extend.But it wasnt enough.

Originally posted by JP
Oh I agree. They don\'t look all that great anymore compared to newer Xbox and PC games. But I disagree with what fastson said, that they look really bad compared to newer PS2 games. Which I don\'t think they do.

There is a huge difference between Xbox and PS2 games?
Go look at the tech demos (anyone have a link? I spent 10 mins on Google and found noZING), then come back.. Take a look at Silent Hill 3, Metal Gear Solid 3, Burnout 3, Ace Combat 4 etc.. Its pretty big.  

I posted some links of the PS2 tech demos a long time ago
One moment
I ll do a search

http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=6280&highlight=tech+demos


A damn.The links dont work anymore.

Edit:I have them on my PC though.If only I could upload them somewhere

I found the links on IGN.. But either they are broken or you have to be an insider to view the vids. :rolleyes:

Uni: Nice find!

These pictures were also shown time ago as demo-tech captures of the future Xbox2... I don\'t believe it... I think it\'s fake. If they were true... erm... dunno...

[Evi]

This is all a load of crap...don\'t post loads of crap...

Actually...these are in fact, renders. I got this info from ps3insider.com

Avalon PC Renders

Posted on Thursday, March 18 @ 16:51:54 EST by Josh
[Article Topic: News]

Some of you may remember a few months ago when we reported that Climax Studios had completed their next-generation engine, called Blimey 2, set to be used on the PS3. Today, we get to see the new engine in action (on a PC) via the Official UK Playstation Magazine. The screens are from a recently revealed title called Avalon which is a futuristic racing game set for release on the PS3.

It is important that our readers understand that these pictures do not represent what the PS3 will be capable of graphically; this is only a demonstration of what the game engine can do when run on a PC. We do feel that it is important to show you these shots because they do represent the first look at a PS3 game even though they don’t represent what the final product will look like.

Here\'s a scanned page from the article:


...and what the hell is Blimey 2???

Mmmm... Despite their efforts i still think some of those screens are just plain bad. Ill wait to gobble up the hype of the REAL tech demos.

Oh yeah.I miss the shift from 2D to 3D.It was a whole new experience.
Gameplay also felt different.3D controls, physics etc implemented for the first time.And we got superb quality of sound compared to the 16 bit consoles.
Man!I still remember when I poped my first game in my PS1.I was BLOWN AWAY!TOTALLY!!That was Wipeout!!The sound, the music, the graphics, the feel of the game....Damn that was probably my first orgasm

I was waiting to see the same difference from 32 bit to 128.But the difference is nothing compared to back then.
I had high expectations when PS2 was announced.Expected to be blown away.
I was to some extend.But it wasnt enough.

Thank you Uni. Took the words out of my mouth. When i first played a playstation it was one of the most amazing things ever. CD formats being massed preduced and knowing that my machine could also play cd\'s and had a kool interface w/o a game even being in the machine. A start up (loading) screen (far different than just the words sega in blue and a computerized voice).

A CG animated into and music to die for. WipeOut came in the koolest box too (still have it btw). The large boxy DVD like cases. The game blew me away. That and RayMan which i had never played on any other console at the time. Back then nobody would dare say that those graphics were bad. You just couldnt.

Those were the days