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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2004, 12:24:14 AM »
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You know, its proven that alchohol in moderation can be healthy for you?



Yeah, an occasional glass of red wine with dinner at the most.

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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2004, 01:07:55 AM »
omg thats so bad, i really dont think there should be a maximum amount of units you can drive on, there should just be no driving after you have been drinking, people handle it differnetly
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2004, 01:38:16 AM »
This has been updated a bit since the last time it was posted. She has now lost an eye, (the one without the eyelid). Just shows that there should be a zero tolorance on drink driving, if you are cought with any alcohol in your system you should face an instant ban.

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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2004, 02:02:51 AM »
http://www.helpjacqui.com/

There\'s a video of her up.  She looks pretty healthy and her voice is still strong.  Seems a cornea tranplant has heped her to see again with her left eye as well.

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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2004, 03:25:19 AM »
Strange that you mention it,

I seen her on the Show Oprah a few days ago and was very sad on what happen to her.

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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2004, 06:30:31 AM »
See?  She\'s strong, healthy, and she was on Oprah.  Not to mention she\'s probably helped to reduce drunk driving.

None of that would have been possible if you\'d murdered her, Unicron.  :p
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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2004, 08:17:49 AM »
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See?  She\'s strong, healthy, and she was on Oprah.  Not to mention she\'s probably helped to reduce drunk driving.

None of that would have been possible if you\'d murdered her, Unicron.  :p


You call that healthy?

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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2004, 08:22:33 AM »
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You call that healthy?
I didn\'t call her that, THX did.  Besides, you didn\'t see her on Oprah, so what do you know?  The pictures on the website linked above were probably taken within 6-12 months after the accident.  It\'s now been several years, and I think there\'s little doubt that she is healthier than she was before.

You may think handicapped people have no reason to survive, but you can\'t decide that for others.
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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2004, 08:50:56 AM »
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I didn\'t call her that, THX did.  Besides, you didn\'t see her on Oprah, so what do you know?  The pictures on the website linked above were probably taken within 6-12 months after the accident.  It\'s now been several years, and I think there\'s little doubt that she is healthier than she was before.

You may think handicapped people have no reason to survive, but you can\'t decide that for others.


The picture was taken in 2003.There is a date under the pic in that website.She is still under medical care ("Medical treatment for Jacqui\'s extensive injuries continues").

It depends.Thats not my absolute opinion about handicapped people.But when I saw specifically her I was as shocked as I ve never been in my whole life when I saw other incidents of people that have suffered from an incident and caused great losses

Just as I cant decide for others the same counts for her parents and you as you believe she should have lived.
This girl will suffer for the rest of her life.I ve seen people that had insignifigant losses and suffer for the rest of their lives.Sometimes they seem to accept their fate because they have no other option.But they occasionally brake.

as for my previous post you seem to ignore the things I ve mentioned
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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2004, 08:53:07 AM »
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Yeah, an occasional glass of red wine with dinner at the most.


That was what 10-12 years ago? Tis a little different now and even includes beer and alcohol.


I hate to see these types of stories, espescially when said DD lives on normally.
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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2004, 09:18:35 AM »
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as for my previous post you seem to ignore the things I ve mentioned
I have ignored nothing you mentioned.  My point was you shouldn\'t just list all her ailments.  We looked at the website, and we know her condition.  Just listing what\'s wrong with her is not an argument.

I\'m trying to say that you\'ve made a judgement that she shouldn\'t live based on the pictures you saw.  If she shouldn\'t live with those injuries, then where do you draw the line?  Exactly what injuries are sustainable, and what injuries should result in a death sentence?  You have no rule you can apply to all situations.  An injury that might be considered life ending by a weak person might be taken in stride by someone else with more inner strength.

You can\'t just look at a picture and assume that SHE won\'t have the courage to live and make something of herself.  Not everyone will be able to do that, but it\'s up to her to decide her fate, not you.  I have known people who look as bad as she does, and they are living and surviving.  Sure life can be harder for some, but that doesn\'t always mean you should just give up.

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Just as I cant decide for others the same counts for her parents and you as you believe she should have lived.


PS.  I did not say she should live.  I said she should be given the opportunity to live.  If she wants to end her own life, that should be possible too.
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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2004, 09:35:36 AM »
Can\'t they do plastic surgery to her to make her look more like she was before the accident? Its good to see she\'s doing better and that she is helping in the crusade against drunk driving. I really had trouble sleeping last night after seeing this link. I couldn\'t get her picture out of my head.
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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2004, 09:36:07 AM »
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 If she wants to end her own life, that should be possible too.



I think we should all have that option when something serious happens and we end up in the hospital.
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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2004, 09:57:55 AM »
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I have ignored nothing you mentioned.  My point was you shouldn\'t just list all her ailments.  We looked at the website, and we know her condition.  Just listing what\'s wrong with her is not an argument.

I\'m trying to say that you\'ve made a judgement that she shouldn\'t live based on the pictures you saw.  If she shouldn\'t live with those injuries, then where do you draw the line?  Exactly what injuries are sustainable, and what injuries should result in a death sentence?  You have no rule you can apply to all situations.  An injury that might be considered life ending by a weak person might be taken in stride by someone else with more inner strength.

You can\'t just look at a picture and assume that SHE won\'t have the courage to live and make something of herself.  Not everyone will be able to do that, but it\'s up to her to decide her fate, not you.  I have known people who look as bad as she does, and they are living and surviving.  Sure life can be harder for some, but that doesn\'t always mean you should just give up.



PS.  I did not say she should live.  I said she should be given the opportunity to live.  If she wants to end her own life, that should be possible too.



You did ignore and some things werent mentioned in any website I ve mentioned.And I reminded you of a few things that her parents didnt take into consideration.

Anyways.My original point was that her parents avoided all the possibilities that indicate to a living hell for her in the future and that their act was for theirselves since we cant stand the loss of a person we love.

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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2004, 10:06:03 AM »
on Oprah,  she speak pretty decent english considering her situation and both her eyes could see, but all ten of her fingers are missing which is sad because she to struggle to brush her teeth, change her clothes, or type with a keyboard, etc....
also, beside she got injuried badly, two other people in the car were killed because of ths accident.

I think the driver got sentenced 7 years in jail or something.  I can\'t remember who said it maybe Oprah said something like this, "This guy did get 7 years in prison, but once he got out of jail after he served his time.  He can enjoy his life once again and do things that he wanted to do...while she have to suffered from this for the rest of her life."

Which I actually agree.  The burnt victim said she wanted study Engineering and finish it but she can\'t because of this.  The mother of the driver came up from the audiences and said she pray for her, and she pray that she got her eyesights back...she have a difficult time getting the words out, but she did...

Another thing was asked was, "Did you forgave the person that cause you this?"  She said yes which i thought was amazing that she did...she said when she go to the mall, people stare at her and gave her the looks, she said when the kids look at her like that, she understand because they are still kids.  But some adults does it too....and it probably made her uncomfortable.

Anyway, I suffered from schizophrenia and sinus pain, and it killing me and preventing me from doing things i wanted to do and i been through hell and still struggling, but compare me to her, she\'s in worse condition than me in most cases.

I was hoping for the day when i get cured and back to my real self, i used to be very optimistic about me being normal again and a brighter future. even before i have head scar surgeries.  I remember before 2002, my trauma headache and sinus pain and eye swelling was bad, but i was in denial and i wasn\'t sure what is happening to me, but i was trying to be optimistic and try to ignore the problem....I realize how wrong i was ignoring those symptoms...until summer 2002,  my chronic headache and sinus pain is at it extreme severe.  It hurts as hell, i was trying to tell my mom to get me help...she didn\'t take it seriously, she thought it was just a mild headache...
but now, i am much better than i used to be and i try to be optimistic to be healthy again, but i am scare and worry...bunch of times i had thought about suicide, but didn\'t do it yet....hopefully i am back to my normal self again...the sooner the better.
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