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« Reply #90 on: April 25, 2004, 07:27:24 PM »
Well I live in Iowa...can you blame me?
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« Reply #91 on: April 25, 2004, 09:42:21 PM »
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Bladez you have a boring life.


So let\'s all get high and be cool!!


Why don\'t we just get together and play football...except you Vivi, your lungs might fall apart if you try to exercise.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #92 on: April 25, 2004, 10:43:34 PM »
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Bladez you have a boring life.


ViVi=:cool:

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« Reply #93 on: April 26, 2004, 01:43:27 PM »
FYI: I feel ten times dumber after reading all of Vivi\'s posts.
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« Reply #94 on: April 26, 2004, 03:18:43 PM »
If they legalized marijuana, vivi would need to be their spokesperson -- just like the heads of the tobacco company.  We\'ll see him at a trial one of these days after marijuana is the reported cause for a ton of different deaths and he\'ll tell them all, right to their faces
"Hey, they couldn\'t hold their smoke!"
"It\'s not my fault they have virgin lungs!"
"People should learn how to drive high!"
"I will not be blamed for those who claim to be addicts as weed is not addicitve unless you see someone else smoking it!"  
"All you people who don\'t smoke, you fools ain\'t cool, yo!"

I swear that with some of the things you say, vivi, I\'m starting to believe less and less that you are an actual person and are instead some type of bot programmed to say the dumbest shit on Earth.
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« Reply #95 on: April 26, 2004, 03:23:19 PM »
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"All you people who don\'t smoke, you fools ain\'t cool, yo!"




That\'s my favorite.
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« Reply #96 on: April 26, 2004, 03:33:46 PM »
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So let\'s all get high and be cool!!


Why don\'t we just get together and play football...except you Vivi, your lungs might fall apart if you try to exercise.


I ran a 6:42 mile today, and ran a quarter mile with someone on my back and was the 3rd person to finish. Shut your mouth, because you dont know me.

And Bladez, I go to Iowa once a year. So I know how it is lol

Ever heard of Wappelo or Fairfield?

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FYI: I feel ten times dumber after reading all of Vivi\'s posts.
:(


Go have sex with your blow up doll you loser.
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« Reply #97 on: April 26, 2004, 03:58:56 PM »
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I ran a 6:42 mile today, and ran a quarter mile with someone on my back and was the 3rd person to finish. Shut your mouth, because you dont know me.

And Bladez, I go to Iowa once a year. So I know how it is lol

Ever heard of Wappelo or Fairfield?

 

Go have sex with your blow up doll you loser.



I jumped off the tallest building in Dallas today. I also had sex with Jessica Alba while I was driving my brand new Porsche Carrera down the street. I benched pressed 400lb today also! it was a real drag, but with effort I pulled it off with ease.

Never heard of them...


At least I can get my *friend* up...You probably need the weed so you don\'t feel lonely anymore...It\'s ok...I\'m sure a blind retarded girl will come around you some day.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #98 on: April 26, 2004, 04:05:34 PM »
Knock it off Mystic. Your not being funny, just insulting.


In fact.. EVERYONE KNOCK IT OFF!
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« Reply #99 on: April 26, 2004, 04:08:58 PM »
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Knock it off Mystic. Your not being funny, just insulting.


In fact.. EVERYONE KNOCK IT OFF!


That was the point...HE STARTED IT!!

Anyways...

I can\'t really make any more comments because it\'s always the same thing with the pot heads.

"Weed doesn\'t harm"
"Weed is cool"
"Weed...doesn\'t harm..."

And so on...
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #100 on: April 26, 2004, 04:36:45 PM »
When you make assumptions about someone you don\'t even know, that just proves you\'re retarded.You think I\'d lie about something like running to people I don\'t know? Maybe you would (looks back to you posting about your "gf" on her cell).  "He started it!" ...grow up. And what makes you think I was talking to you the whole time? Did you forget to read "And Bladez" and my quote about LIC?

I never said it didn\'t harm, but I think everyone thinks way too harsh of it.

Don\'t reply, because this could go on all day.

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« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2004, 05:34:29 PM »
"He started it" was a sarcastic remark.

Your lungs going out was a sarcastic remark.

Anyways...

Weed Kills
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« Reply #102 on: April 26, 2004, 09:54:55 PM »
I really hate for this to be my first post here but I hate mis-information even more. I\'ve heard enough from both sides, but I\'m sure you all knew this.

1. Marijuana causes brain damage
The most celebrated study that claims to show brain damage is the rhesus monkey study of Dr. Robert Heath, done in the late 1970s. This study was reviewed by a distinguished panel of scientists sponsored by the Institute of Medicine and the National Academy of Sciences. Their results were published under the title, Marijuana and Health in 1982. Heath\'s work was sharply criticized for its insufficient sample size (only four monkeys), its failure to control experimental bias, and the misidentification of normal monkey brain structure as "damaged". Actual studies of human populations of marijuana users have shown no evidence of brain damage. For example, two studies from 1977, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) showed no evidence of brain damage in heavy users of marijuana. That same year, the American Medical Association (AMA) officially came out in favor of decriminalizing marijuana. That\'s not the sort of thing you\'d expect if the AMA thought marijuana damaged the brain.

2. Marijuana damages the reproductive system
This claim is based chiefly on the work of Dr. Gabriel Nahas, who experimented with tissue (cells) isolated in petri dishes, and the work of researchers who dosed animals with near-lethal amounts of cannabinoids (i.e., the intoxicating part of marijuana). Nahas\' generalizations from his petri dishes to human beings have been rejected by the scientific community as being invalid. In the case of the animal experiments, the animals that survived their ordeal returned to normal within 30 days of the end of the experiment. Studies of actual human populations have failed to demonstrate that marijuana adversely affects the reproductive system.

3. Marijuana is a "gateway" drug-it leads to hard drugs
This is one of the more persistent myths. A real world example of what happens when marijuana is readily available can be found in Holland. The Dutch partially legalized marijuana in the 1970s. Since then, hard drug use-heroin and cocaine-have DECLINED substantially. If marijuana really were a gateway drug, one would have expected use of hard drugs to have gone up, not down. This apparent "negative gateway" effect has also been observed in the United States. Studies done in the early 1970s showed a negative correlation between use of marijuana and use of alcohol. A 1993 Rand Corporation study that compared drug use in states that had decriminalized marijuana versus those that had not, found that where marijuana was more available-the states that had decriminalized-hard drug abuse as measured by emergency room episodes decreased. In short, what science and actual experience tell us is that marijuana tends to substitute for the much more dangerous hard drugs like alcohol, cocaine, and heroin.

4. Marijuana suppresses the immune system
Like the studies claiming to show damage to the reproductive system, this myth is based on studies where animals were given extremely high-in many cases, near-lethal-doses of cannabinoids. These results have never been duplicated in human beings. Interestingly, two studies done in 1978 and one done in 1988 showed that hashish and marijuana may have actually stimulated the immune system in the people studied.

5. Marijuana is much more dangerous than tobacco
Smoked marijuana contains about the same amount of carcinogens as does an equivalent amount of tobacco. It should be remembered, however, that a heavy tobacco smoker consumes much more tobacco than a heavy marijuana smoker consumes marijuana. This is because smoked tobacco, with a 90% addiction rate, is the most addictive of all drugs while marijuana is less addictive than caffeine. Two other factors are important. The first is that paraphernalia laws directed against marijuana users make it difficult to smoke safely. These laws make water pipes and bongs, which filter some of the carcinogens out of the smoke, illegal and, hence, unavailable. The second is that, if marijuana were legal, it would be more economical to have cannabis drinks like bhang (a traditional drink in the Middle East) or tea which are totally non-carcinogenic. This is in stark contrast with "smokeless" tobacco products like snuff which can cause cancer of the mouth and throat. When all of these facts are taken together, it can be clearly seen that the reverse is true: marijuana is much SAFER than tobacco.

6. Legal marijuana would cause carnage on the highways
Although marijuana, when used to intoxication, does impair performance in a manner similar to alcohol, actual studies of the effect of marijuana on the automobile accident rate suggest that it poses LESS of a hazard than alcohol. When a random sample of fatal accident victims was studied, it was initially found that marijuana was associated with RELATIVELY as many accidents as alcohol. In other words, the number of accident victims intoxicated on marijuana relative to the number of marijuana users in society gave a ratio similar to that for accident victims intoxicated on alcohol relative to the total number of alcohol users. However, a closer examination of the victims revealed that around 85% of the people intoxicated on marijuana WERE ALSO INTOXICATED ON ALCOHOL. For people only intoxicated on marijuana, the rate was much lower than for alcohol alone. This finding has been supported by other research using completely different methods. For example, an economic analysis of the effects of decriminalization on marijuana usage found that states that had reduced penalties for marijuana possession experienced a rise in marijuana use and a decline in alcohol use with the result that fatal highway accidents decreased. This would suggest that, far from causing "carnage", legal marijuana might actually save lives.

7. Marijuana "flattens" human brainwaves
This is an out-and-out lie perpetrated by the Partnership for a Drug-Free America. A few years ago, they ran a TV ad that purported to show, first, a normal human brainwave, and second, a flat brainwave from a 14-year-old "on marijuana". When researchers called up the TV networks to complain about this commercial, the Partnership had to pull it from the air. It seems that the Partnership faked the flat "marijuana brainwave". In reality, marijuana has the effect of slightly INCREASING alpha wave activity. Alpha waves are associated with meditative and relaxed states which are, in turn, often associated with human creativity.

8. Marijuana is more potent today than in the past
This myth is the result of bad data. The researchers who made the claim of increased potency used as their baseline the THC content of marijuana seized by police in the early 1970s. Poor storage of this marijuana in un-air conditioned evidence rooms caused it to deteriorate and decline in potency before any chemical assay was performed. Contemporaneous, independent assays of unseized "street" marijuana from the early 1970s showed a potency equivalent to that of modern "street" marijuana. Actually, the most potent form of this drug that was generally available was sold legally in the 1920s and 1930s by the pharmaceutical company Smith-Klein under the name, "American Cannabis".

9. Marijuana impairs short-term memory
This is true but misleading. Any impairment of short-term memory disappears when one is no longer under the influence of marijuana. Often, the short-term memory effect is paired with a reference to Dr. Heath\'s poor rhesus monkeys to imply that the condition is permanent.

10. Marijuana lingers in the body like DDT
This is also true but misleading. Cannabinoids are fat soluble as are innumerable nutrients and, yes, some poisons like DDT. For example, the essential nutrient, Vitamin A, is fat soluble but one never hears people who favor marijuana prohibition making this comparison.

11. There are over a thousand chemicals in marijuana smoke
Again, true but misleading. The 31 August 1990 issue of the magazine Science notes that of the over 800 volatile chemicals present in roasted COFFEE, only 21 have actually been tested on animals and 16 of these cause cancer in rodents. Yet, coffee remains legal and is generally considered fairly safe.

12. No one has ever died of a marijuana overdose
This is true. It was put in to see if you are paying attention. Animal tests have revealed that extremely high doses of cannabinoids are needed to have lethal effect. This has led scientists to conclude that the ratio of the amount of cannabinoids necessary to get a person intoxicated (i.e., stoned) relative to the amount necessary to kill them is 1 to 40,000. In other words, to overdose, you would have to consume 40,000 times as much marijuana as you needed to get stoned. In contrast, the ratio for alcohol varies between 1 to 4 and 1 to 10. It is easy to see how upwards of 5000 people die from alcohol overdoses every year and no one EVER dies of marijuana overdoses.
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« Reply #103 on: April 26, 2004, 10:38:13 PM »
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3. Marijuana is a "gateway" drug-it leads to hard drugs
This is one of the more persistent myths. A real world example of what happens when marijuana is readily available can be found in Holland. The Dutch partially legalized marijuana in the 1970s. Since then, hard drug use-heroin and cocaine-have DECLINED substantially. If marijuana really were a gateway drug, one would have expected use of hard drugs to have gone up, not down. This apparent "negative gateway" effect has also been observed in the United States. Studies done in the early 1970s showed a negative correlation between use of marijuana and use of alcohol. A 1993 Rand Corporation study that compared drug use in states that had decriminalized marijuana versus those that had not, found that where marijuana was more available-the states that had decriminalized-hard drug abuse as measured by emergency room episodes decreased. In short, what science and actual experience tell us is that marijuana tends to substitute for the much more dangerous hard drugs like alcohol, cocaine, and heroin.


These test might have been accurate in the 70\'s but things change.  Holland is a complete different atmosphere so what happens there isn\'t true here, just like the 70\'s were a whole different time period.  Both sides will battle their case to the very end but I don\'t think it will ever get anywhere on this part of it.

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« Reply #104 on: April 27, 2004, 12:31:40 AM »
Also, might have been harder to get a hold of the the harder drugs back then too.


ps, where was this copied and pasted from?
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