Yes! Weekly Bungie Update: Today!

[Living-In-Clip]

You know, Halo, in my opinion was not that gorgeous of a game and what detail it did have it was able to have due to the fact you repeated the levels how many times? It\'s a cheap way to lenghten gameplay and get out of making a bunch of gorgeous textures... Ninja Gaiden does this also, you re-visit a lot of levels that are downright gorgeous, but one can\'t help and think it was done for the two reasons I stated above.

With that said, Halo 2 does look good, but I don\'t think it looks near on par with Chronicles of Riddik, which may be the single most gorgeous console game I have ever laid eyes on.

And finally, not to beat a dead horse, but like MM said "teh power of 30fps" is so very true.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
You know, Halo, in my opinion was not that gorgeous of a game and what detail it did have it was able to have due to the fact you repeated the levels how many times?

In total, there were 6 entirely different maps in HALO\'s single player campaign.

• Pillar of Autumn
• Halo
• Truth & Reconciliation
• The Silent Cartographer
• Assault on the Control Room
• 343 Guilty Spark
• The Library

And only three of those maps from the single player campaign were "repeated" later on in the game...

• Pillar of Autumn/The Maw
• Truth & Reconciliation/Keyes
• Assault on the Control Room/Two Betrayals)

... in order to extend the game\'s length. I say "repeated" because even though they were basically the same maps, different areas were present with different textures.

Ninja Gaiden does this also, you re-visit a lot of levels that are downright gorgeous, but one can\'t help and think it was done for the two reasons I stated above.

Er, there were only about 2 or 3 levels that you had to revisit several times, with about 2 of them looking entirely different later on. Count the number of different enviroments one by one, and you\'ll see that there was a lot of variety, and minimal repetition.

With that said, Halo 2 does look good, but I don\'t think it looks near on par with Chronicles of Riddik, which may be the single most gorgeous console game I have ever laid eyes on.

The Chronicles of Riddik is an impressive looking game, but based on what we\'ve seen so far, the enviroments seem to be... Limited... Quite small compared to HALO\'s single player maps, which will be even bigger and more detailed in HALO 2. I have a feeling you\'ll be much more pleased with HALO 2\'s graphics further down the road.

And finally, not to beat a dead horse, but like MM said "teh power of 30fps" is so very true.

:/ * Nu sighs.

Seriously, I think this is the only forum where that\'s still being brought up on a regular basis. There are no other console games around, even on Xbox, that are doing so much with higher framerates. If I remember correctly, even KillZone is being knocked down to 30fps...

As long as it\'s consistant, it really shouldn\'t matter. :/

Originally posted by Nu
In total, there were 6 entirely different maps in HALO\'s single player campaign.

• Pillar of Autumn
• Halo
• Truth & Reconciliation
• The Silent Cartographer
• Assault on the Control Room
• 343 Guilty Spark
• The Library

[/B]

count again

Er, SEVEN!... Heh.

[Living-In-Clip]

:/ * Nu sighs.

Seriously, I think this is the only forum where that\'s still being brought up on a regular basis. There are no other console games around, even on Xbox, that are doing so much with higher framerates. If I remember correctly, even KillZone is being knocked down to 30fps...

As long as it\'s consistant, it really shouldn\'t matter. :/

Well, it\'s not like I am bashing only Halo for it. Most games on consoles are 30fps . Hopefully, this next generation we won\'t run into this problem... And you are sort of right, as long as the framerate is constant, it does help , but it still matters.

halo\'s fps is FAR from consistant

2 player splitscreen makes me wanna vomit

Only when things get a bit hectic.

But that comment originally concerned HALO 2. HALO 2\'s framerate is supposed to be a lot more stable than the original.

"supposed"

sup·posed  adv.
1. Presumed to be true or real without conclusive evidence.

Er, my evidence is Bungie saying that HALO 2\'s framerate would be a lot more stable nearly 2 years ago. It was one of the first things they addressed during the onslaught of interviews after the Announcement Trailer.

The E3 2k3 Demo should also put your worries to rest. Lots of explosions, shadows, large enviroments, and no dips.

exactly

Bungie\'s has taken that as a serious concern for the sequel. The level designers and artists are working together to insure that none of the repetitious rooms you saw in the first game don\'t show up in the sequel. Everything will be fresh and interesting, there will be more locales to visit, and the levels will still be laid out in such a way that it will work with HALO\'s gameplay.

Before, I failed to address that particular subject in this thread. Now that I have, you may stop bringing it up once every couple of pages.

Nu don\'t hype it up too much.  If you\'re wrong the ps2-4-life guys will bring your post back up and rub it in your face///

i really dont see a "problem" with 30 fps i never even notice it

Not tryin\' to hype it, THX. Just sayin\' what Bungie has already told the fans.

I would just like to say that if this game does have framerate dips like the first game, and repetitious areas within the single player maps(not worried about variety. A ton of different locales have already been confirmed), I\'m not going to jump on the defense if mm, ooseven, or anyone else attempts to butcher the game because of it. I won\'t care for Bungie\'s excuse, if they are incapable of fixing two of the most glaring flaws of the first game even though they\'ve had a good three years of development time... :rolleyes:

II am pretty confident that Bungie will keep their word though, I\'ve been a fan since their days on the Mac.

Originally posted by PS2_-\'_\'-_PS2
i really dont see a "problem" with 30 fps i never even notice it

I notice it. After upgrading my PC and playing PC games at nearly 100+fps, the difference is very much there. But going back to HALO(XBX), and playing at 30fps doesn\'t bother me, I don\'t see it as a glaring flaw and think it can be easily overlooked.