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Offline Coredweller
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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2004, 09:16:25 PM »
Documentaries don\'t ask questions?  :laughing: LOL!  Sorry, that just ... made me laugh.  

You are a spendthrift with words, mm.  I guess it\'s easier to just dismiss him as "a piece of shit" than to listen to the points he\'s making.  

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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2004, 10:11:06 PM »
Basically all just comes down to whether you happen to agree with his points or not.  Those that do love him, those that don\'t hate him.

As for the idea that they should cut him off after Bowling for Columbine, why?  The film was a success, it won an Oscar.  Sure you might not have agreed with it, but that doesn\'t mean it wasn\'t a success.

And as for playing off people\'s insecurities, couldn\'t you say that about half the movies out there do the same?  A plot isn\'t interesting if it doesn\'t make you react in some way, and that\'s one way to do that.
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2004, 02:15:17 AM »
I thought BFC has its moments and really brought up a lot of interesting points, but as usual Moore took it to the extreme, exaggerating wherever he could.  How many times did he replay "From my cold dead hands!!!"?

And remember that interview with the drunken redneck?  Not only was he interviewed when drunk, but Moore gave him about 10-15 minutes of him on screen.  He really picks the worst of the worst when he goes after a subject.  The shock therapy method to get people\'s attention doesn\'t work on me, but it does for many.  I like my healthy cynicism. ;)

This is a free country and I think Moore should release his documentary, but not at the expense of hurting Disney.
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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2004, 04:04:06 AM »
It like current reality TV shows - its all in the editing to either dramatize certain situations or make people look bad.  Michael Moore is no genius and even you have to admit Core, he takes a very slanted approach on issues.
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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2004, 06:03:47 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2004, 09:09:16 AM »
Miramax also refused to release the Kevin Smith film Dogma when it came out so this hardly a political issue.  So much for the whole Bush backed conspiracy theory...
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2004, 10:00:15 AM »
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=518901

Disney financed it but said they would not distribute it.....all this was said one year ago. But Michael is telling his fans that it just happened.

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In an indignant letter to his supporters, Moore said he had learnt only on Monday that Disney had put the kibosh on distributing the film, which has been financed by the semi-independent Disney subsidiary Miramax.

But in the CNN interview he said: "Almost a year ago, after we\'d started making the film, the chairman of Disney, Michael Eisner, told my agent he was upset Miramax had made the film and he will not distribute it."

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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2004, 10:01:07 AM »
Timing is everything ;)
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2004, 10:06:54 AM »
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Timing is everything ;)


In Bowling for Columbine - editing (which included timing) is everything! What a farce. Moore should relinquish his award since it was not really a documentary.
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2004, 10:35:08 AM »
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In Bowling for Columbine - editing (which included timing) is everything! What a farce. Moore should relinquish his award since it was not really a documentary.
People love to make statements like that, but never provide examples.  When some reactionary website lists a carefully compiled list of "errors" or "deceptions," every one one of them is effectively refuted by Moore and his STAFF of RESEARCHERS who checked every fact before there are included in his books and films.

This whole fantasy about how Moore\'s films are innacurate is just a smoke screen whipped up rabid conservatives who simply don\'t like the points Moore is making.  They don\'t like the content, so they try to discredit the source.  It\'s utterly lame in my opinion.  

If you don\'t like the fact that movies are made of edited scenes that are stitched together to create an entertaining progression of events, then what do you suggest?  Maybe Moore should just switch to filming pages of a textbook?

Instead of attacking the messenger, why don\'t you attack the message if you can.
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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2004, 10:43:02 AM »
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effectively refuted by Moore


Uh...no. He didn\'t answer all the questions. Spinning the truth is not what documentaries are about.
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2004, 10:48:58 AM »
"Spinning the truth..."  Is that where you tell the truth, but make it entertaining?  If so, then Moore is guilty.

You need to start providing examples, rather than blindly repeating what every other conservative pundit yaps to each other like an echo chamber.
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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2004, 11:14:29 AM »
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"Spinning the truth..."  Is that where you tell the truth, but make it entertaining?  If so, then Moore is guilty.

You need to start providing examples, rather than blindly repeating what every other conservative pundit yaps to each other like an echo chamber.


I\'ll provide the link when I find it....AGAIN. This won\'t be the first time I provided it here.
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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2004, 11:23:59 AM »
It would be cool if you could state what YOU found inaccurate or misrepresented in his films, instead of just posting a link to someone else\'s analysis.  Have you seen his films?
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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2004, 11:29:54 AM »
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It would be cool if you could state what YOU found inaccurate or misrepresented in his films, instead of just posting a link to someone else\'s analysis.  Have you seen his films?


Ya really think I have time to watch the movie and the fly to the areas he\'s been to and interview the people....just for you?
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