beheading of an american..

Oh, but the embarrasment of being piled on top of someone else is so much worse than being whipped to death or beaten to a bloody pulp right? (sarcasm)

In their culture, yes it is. The pride themselves on the seperation of men and women and then made to feel like a woman. (words of a captor) The same guy even had the balls to say he would prefer beatings over the sexual humilitaion. Course he was probably hamming it up for the camera too, but I dont necessarily doubt it 100% either.

Did you guys hear on the news that one of the 9/11 hijackers used Nick Bergs email address?

Also, not to promote conspiracy theorys, but on other forums I\'ve been hearing a lot of people post evidence that the video may of been fake?

I didn\'t watch it, so if this is completley absurd, do not flame me.

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I\'ve seen it, and some of the theories could be true.. He didn\'t seem to fight back, the blood didn\'t squirt and when the head was raised, not one drop of blood falls. Which tells me that he was already dead.  This is one theory i\'ve read.

Still a very disturbing video, It’s not the gore, or the blood. It’s the truth that makes it disturbing. It’s a real person being killed in a very unhuman way (if not already dead)

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Yeah, the time code changes.  IT\'s odd.

ANd the Musawi using his email address has so far been ruled as coincidence.

Pretty damn weird though.

I thought it was his password to something and not his email.

If you are white, American, Jewish,  and probably working for the CIA (aka Nick Berg + Daniel Pearl)  do not go to the middle east.

I think it\'s quite obvious Berg was more then a civilian.  I\'ll start with what was he doing in Iraq?  Promoting his business?  Nice place to expand Einstein.  But we know he\'s not that stupid.  What was his business?  Nobody knows.  That\'s why this business thing is just a coverup for the real reason he was there.  And I\'m really sure the guy who has his email address and password ending up being the one to kill him was coincidence.

I find it amusing to see all the \'just nuke them\' posts.  Aren\'t these the same people who fought like animals to go over there?  

I also enjoy reading all the posts that downplay abuse of Iraq prisoners.  Last time I checked the U.S. is suppose to be a role model for the world,  not some country who lowers its standards because \'they would do the same or worst to us\'

Look,  the people fighting the U.S. over there do not want lawlessness.  They aren\'t idiots.    They just want the U.S. gone.  But you say well we are over there to help you.  It\'s quite obvious that they don\'t want your help, namely because your intentions weren\'t to help them but to help your own hide by looking for WMD.

I tried to warn of the impending failure of a Iraq occupation but most would not have it.

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Originally posted by alliswell
I tried to warn of the impending failure of a Iraq occupation but most would not have it.

Rumsfeld won\'t return my calls either.

I guess he\'s a bit busy.

Originally posted by alliswell
If you are white, American, Jewish,  and probably working for the CIA (aka Nick Berg + Daniel Pearl)  do not go to the middle east.

I think it\'s quite obvious Berg was more then a civilian.  I\'ll start with what was he doing in Iraq?  Promoting his business?  Nice place to expand Einstein.  But we know he\'s not that stupid.  What was his business?  Nobody knows.  That\'s why this business thing is just a coverup for the real reason he was there.  And I\'m really sure the guy who has his email address and password ending up being the one to kill him was coincidence.

Working for the CIA - I don\'t think so... this guy was an Islamic fundamentalist symapthizer and most likely a convert to Islam.  Secondly - GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT - he did not give his email address and password to the guy who killed him you moron.  He gave it to Zacarias Moussaoui.  A man that has been in US custody for more than 2 years.


I also enjoy reading all the posts that downplay abuse of Iraq prisoners.  Last time I checked the U.S. is suppose to be a role model for the world,  not some country who lowers its standards because \'they would do the same or worst to us\'

Who says we have to play fair when the other side doesn\'t?  You would rather have the US fight with one hand tied behind its back while our enemies fight with whatever means they deem necessary?  The only thing these fundamentalists respect is the same savagery they dish out.  Your view on how we should behave plays right into their perception of us being weak.  God forbid if this same generation was around during World War 2 - if it was we would be under German and Japanese rule.


I tried to warn of the impending failure of a Iraq occupation but most would not have it.

First you warned that our attack would be a failure and now you have changed that to be our occupation would be a failure.  You and John Kerry have a lot in common.  You both like to change your stories after the fact.

Eh?

"Nick Berg + Daniel Pearl"

Berg was just an contractor? Like Hammil he was there to make money, I saw an interview with a truck driver of some sort, he said he would make about 1 million dollars for a year in Iraq (or was it six months?).
Pearl was just a journalist?

What have I missed?

Originally posted by fastson
Eh?

"Nick Berg + Daniel Pearl"

Berg was just an contractor? Like Hammil he was there to make money, I saw an interview with a truck driver of some sort, he said he would make about 1 million dollars for a year in Iraq (or was it six months?).
Pearl was just a journalist?

What have I missed?

You haven\'t missed anything other than clowds (aka alliswell) misguided conspiracy theories that have no factual foundation.

There is some suspicion over here in the US as to Nick Bergs motivations for being in Iraq - some have said he is an Islamic Fundamentalist sympathizer.  His brother in law is an Iraqi (his sister is dead - don\'t know the story behind that).  While in Iraq he was caught carrying the Koran and anti semetic literature.

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What was his business? Nobody knows.

He owned a business called Prometheus Methods Tower Service Inc.

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Originally posted by mm
any society that praises killing civilians in the sake of allah\'s good grace = less than human

humiliation?  they dont even know the meaning of the word.

I agree with you for the most part.  Any being that acts out in such inhumane ways, to me, makes them less than human. I think its time to leave.  Nothing good will come of this whole situation, other than a handful of rich guys getting richer.  I think sending troops over there at this point is also inhumane.

It\'s ironic, that almost everything we do is by your defintion "inhumane" yet only a select few things are called inhumane.

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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
It\'s ironic, that almost everything we do is by your defintion "inhumane" yet only a select few things are called inhumane.

What are you talking about?  I was talking about anyone who can slowy saw another man\'s head off without barfing or passing out being inhumane.  when you say "we", who are you talking about?  and if there are only a select few things that are considered inhumane, why dont you go ahead and tell me what those "few" things are, cause I could name an assload of them.