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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2004, 04:14:53 PM »
I\'d imagine Iranian population would be much more religious generally. Since it IS a religious state and all.
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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2004, 04:48:35 PM »
One other factor is that the only "ally" Iraq had was France(if you even want to call them an ally) Iran on the other hand is fairly tight with Russia.
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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2004, 05:32:57 PM »
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Iran is not powerful... to the US anyway.  Our military is ranked first in the world and at the time of the first Gulf War Iraq\'s was ranked fourth - what does that tell you?


Who were the three above us?

I do think that Iran has the potential to invade if Kerry is elected. But would we go in and fight Iran back? If we did, it would be a quick fight.
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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2004, 07:17:58 PM »
Iraq was fourth, not US.
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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2004, 08:01:40 PM »
You can imagine Russia and China fits in there somewhere, but the order is questionable.  I would imagine the might of the Russian military to be more powerful then that of the Chinese, but the Chinese do have the sheer numbers.  But what do massive amounts of troops matter when it comes to cluster bombs?  What does the world\'s largest airforce matter when we can shoot them out of the sky with satellite guided missiles before they\'re even within visual contact?

It\'s funny really -- our military strength is dependant upon the might of our technology which is far superior to any nation in the world.  It\'s the only reason why, as of now, we can function on a military power base that\'s comprised of volunteers only.  I don\'t know how much of a chance Iran stands against us without the aide of Russia.  Let us not forget that much of our military holds back a great deal due to our need to make this war as free of civilian casualties as possible.  If our military were to be totaly unleashed on the Iranian army near a border of Iraq deserted of a civilian populace, just what do you think would happen?  Do you honestly think Iraq put up such little resistance simply because we drove them back to Baghdad in \'91?  

All of Saddam\'s forces were stationed outside of the cities for this war and we had our way with them.  It wasn\'t even a contest, but those are the things you don\'t see on TV.  The only thing we saw was that one video of an Apache mulling through two men and two vehicles at a roadside and they were totaly decimated with little more then a large machinegun.  Imagine 10 Apache helicopters with laser guided missiles, imagine A-10 warthogs flying overhead in waves of ten armed with cluster bombs, napalm, and bunker busters.  These are weapons that bring five, even twenty times the destructive force of one vulcan cannon.

It\'s frightening what we can do.  This little skirmish in Iraq has proven only one thing in my opinion about our military might -- we can show great mercy, patience, and resolve.
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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2004, 08:04:50 PM »
I thought we liked killing babies.






mmmmmmm uranium...

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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2004, 04:05:40 AM »
GigaShadow: Thanks, well four battalions is not alot then.

Info on Iran military:

Armed forces growth: -16%

Armed forces personnel: 513,000 (8th largest, China is number 1, USA is number 3)
(per capita): 7.51 per 1000 people

Manpower - availability (males age 15-49): 20,343,063 (2003 est.)

Manpower - fit for military service (males age 15-49):   12,094,551 (2003 est.)

Weapon holdings: 5,901,000 (14th largest, USA is number 1 and China number 2.)

WMD Biological: There is very little publicly available information to determine whether Iran is pursuing a biological weapon program. Although Iran acceded to the Geneva Protocol in 1929 and ratified the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention (BWC) in 1973, the U.S. government believes Iran began biological weapon efforts in the early to mid-1980s, and that it continues to pursue an offensive biological weapon program linked to its civilian biotechnology activities. The United States alleges that Iran may have started to develop small quantities of agent, possibly including mycotoxins, ricin, and the smallpox virus. Iran strongly denies acquiring or producing biological weapons.

WMD Chemical: There is limited open-source information available concerning Iran\'s chemical weapons program. Although Iran ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) in November 1997, the United States believes that Iran has maintained a chemical weapons program since 1984, including production of sarin, mustard, phosgene, and hydrocyanic acid. According to U.S. government estimates, Iran can produce 1,000 metric tons of agent per year and may have a stockpile of at least several thousand metric tons of weaponized and bulk agent. Iran strongly denies acquiring or producing chemical weapons.

WMD Missile: Iran possesses one of the largest missile inventories in the Middle East and has acquired complete missile systems and developed an infrastructure to build missiles indigenously. It has purchased North Korean Scud-Bs, Scud-Cs, and Nodong ballistic missiles. Meanwhile, Iran has also developed short-range artillery rockets and is producing the Scud-B and the Scud-C—called the Shehab-1 and Shehab-2, respectively. Iran recently flight-tested the 1,300km-range Shehab-3, which is based on the North Korean Nodong. The Shehab-3 is capable of reaching Israel. Following this most recent flight-test, the Shehab-3 was placed in service and revolutionary guard units were officially armed with the missiles. There are conflicting reports about the development of even longer-ranged missiles, such as the Shehab-4 and the Kosar intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). U.S. intelligence agencies assess that barring acquisition of a complete system or major subsystem from North Korea, Iran is unlikely to launch an ICBM or satellite launch vehicle (SLV) before mid-decade.

WMD Nuclear: Iran possesses five research reactors and two partially constructed power reactors at Bushehr. It acceded to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) in 1970. In the mid-1970s, Iran initiated a nuclear power program, though there are reports that it also began a small nuclear weapon research program at the same time. The 1979 revolution ended all nuclear efforts until 1984, when Iran revived the nuclear power program and reportedly began covert procurement for a nuclear weapon program.

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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2004, 06:12:39 AM »
Thanks for the info Fastson.
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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2004, 06:49:41 AM »
hmmm..if they are going to go to war maybe they\'re still swoll from when we helped iraq back in the 80\'s..i highly doubt it tho...
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2004, 09:29:50 AM »
So, is Iran our ally now or what?
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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2004, 09:54:18 AM »
No, Iran doesn\'t like us, but they haven\'t been very hostile towards us either. They are more isolated then the other countries, but a lot of suspicioun about there weapon programs.
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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2004, 10:11:58 AM »
Hmm, check this (old but..).

http://www.menewsline.com/stories/2004/june/06_16_3.html

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Iran has launched the establishment of an army
of suicide bombers.

Iranian officials and media reports said the Islamic republic has drafted more than 10,000 would-be suicide bombers over the last few weeks. They said young Iranians, including seminary students, have signed up to become suicide attackers against targets in such places as Chechnya, Iraq, Israel and Europe.
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"In a world in which the weak are downtrodden and we are exposed to various threats, we can not defend our dignity without focusing our attention to our defense buildup," Iranian President Mohammed Khatami said during a tour of military facilities on June 13. "Access to knowledge and technical know-how in the military and non-military arenas is the prerequisite for safeguarding our achievements."
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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2004, 12:39:05 PM »
^^^y\'know all these guys recruitin suicide bombers...need to practice what they preach..if you\'re ready to die for the cause, strap a couple of bombs to YOUR ass and do it! F**kin\' cowards!
and the idiots that sign up for it are mindless sheep...nowhere in islam does it say to practice such actions...
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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2004, 12:41:55 PM »
Isn\'t Islam supposed to be the religion of peace?
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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2004, 12:53:24 PM »
I think all religions are religions of peace. :)
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