My dad just bought an H2!

Originally posted by MPTheory
yellow.  Hes always been into mountain crawlers, and this thing is mountain ready.

BTW:  Its kind of one of those "lifestyle" things Cored.
Don\'t hate.

Is he seriously going to take this vehicle offroad?  I get the impression with all the bling chrome and plastic accents on the outside, and the comfy interior, that most of these vehicles won\'t be driven on an unpaved road.  If your dad is planning to take it offroad, then more power to him.

I do hate these H2s because they are a danger to me on the freeway.  You can\'t see around them, so you cannot anticipate traffic conditions ahead, and they are so high that it\'s easy for the H2 driver to miss small cars and motorcycles around them.  Also, there\'s rarely any reason to waste the fuel necessary to move that much mass around just to transport 1, 2 or even 4 people.  It weighs at least twice what a vehicle needs to weigh to accomplish that purpose.  Even a luxury vehicle, with all the features and gadgets people seem to love.

I\'ve given up arguing about those things though.  I don\'t care any more if someone wants to buy one of these.  The only thing I don\'t understand is why people like them.  I still don\'t understand the attraction.  You can get a comfortable leather interior, GPS, and XM radio in a hot sedan that\'s also fast and far more fuel efficient.  What\'s so great about a huge hulking bulk of metal like these enormous SUVs?

I hate Hummers, they are a symbol of stupidity. Want to be cool? Spend 50k on a car that has 9 mpg and drive it in a city!

[CHIZZY]

I love watching these retards around here try to park... every other street is one-way...

^^^lol.

Not a very sensible vehicle but it turns heads whether you like it or not.  If you were to take it off road then this looks damn cool:\'

I like that hummer, its perdy.

All Hummers are now officially stupid.

Originally posted by ViVi
I hate Hummers, they are a symbol of stupidity. Want to be cool? Spend 50k on a car that has 9 mpg and drive it in a city!

More like $56K - $65K for an H2 with moderate options.  For that you could have bought an Audi S4, a BMW M3, or a MB CLK500.  

Comparing an M3 to a Hummer?  That ain\'t cool yo!  The M3 don\'t have VTEC.

Neither does a Hummer.  If Honda made the Hummer, it would weigh 2000 pounds less, get 15 more miles per gallon, and probably have a hybrid powertrain.  But then all the conspicuous consumers would sneer at it because of the H badge.

[MPTheory]

Originally posted by Coredweller
Neither does a Hummer.  If Honda made the Hummer, it would weigh 2000 pounds less, get 15 more miles per gallon, and probably have a hybrid powertrain.  But then all the conspicuous consumers would sneer at it because of the H badge.

ummm, get your facts straight:

OHV Vortec(TM) 6.0-Liter V8, 16 Valves, OHV, SEFI Front Mounted With Horsepower Of 316@5200, and Torque Of 360@4000, Cast Aluminum Head, and Cast Iron Block

hummers = lame

I bet you dont know what half of what u said MP

Originally posted by MPTheory
ummm, get your facts straight:

OHV Vortec(TM) 6.0-Liter V8, 16 Valves, OHV, SEFI Front Mounted With Horsepower Of 316@5200, and Torque Of 360@4000, Cast Aluminum Head, and Cast Iron Block

Hmmm?  

Maybe you should understand what you\'re posting before chastising me.  It\'s ok, I\'ll help you out.  

First, no vehicle other than one manufactured by Honda has VTEC®.  That is Honda\'s registered name for their variable valve timing technology.  Therefore my statement was true on that basis alone.

Second, I can almost guarantee you that the H2 does not have any sort of variable valve timing.    They put "OHV" in the specs, which I guess implies that it\'s not a pushrod engine, but it still has only two valves per cylinder.  It seems pointless to implement variable valve timing on an engine with two valves per cylinder, but even if they did, don\'t you think they would have mentioned it?  I\'ve been looking everywhere, and found nothing.  I\'m sick of looking for more tech specs on this engine, but you can keep searching if you want.  It seems no one cares enough to bother talking about it, even on the Hummer forums.

BTW, it\'s just another boring powerplant found in any number of GM SUVs and trucks.  316hp out of a 6 Liter V8 is pathetic.  My F20C makes 240hp out of 2 liters and four cylinders.

http://www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/engines/vortec/apps/vehicle/lq4.htm

[Titan]

^^^Hey its a giant Tonka!

Damn... Told you right.

The man is right. I saw a vid of the h2 trying to take on H1 terrain and got crushed. The axle was f*ed beyond repair. The H2 is just a facified, watered down, more public friendly H1.

Personally i dont really like either, as i pretty much cant stand 90% of all trucks etc.  

And Cored is definately right about the sad amount of power produced by the H2. I mean, people get upwards of 200 and 300 hp from a 79 corolla 3TC engine all the time. Thats a 4cylinder engine at 1.8L.

What happened to American ingenuity and know-how?