Haha Catwoman has 0% so far on RT.com

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by Unicron!
with other words they dont care about quality brought by original ideas but for easy money

Do you not read or think before you post?  I know you don\'t actually think through what you are posting, because most the time no one understands what you are trying to say.

The simple fact is these characters are famous and it is easy for a movie studio to make them into a movie franchise. Why shouldn\'t they? The people obviously want this. The people have always supported the comic to television series and now they are embracing the comic to film industry and as long as the industry keeps pumping out quality titles, then there is no reason for Hollywood to stop and there is no reason for the fans to cry.

There is no shortage of original ideas and unique scripts in Hollywood.  Those kinds of scripts don\'t get produced because they are considered to be too risky by the studio executives, and they are too hard for them to understand.

It\'s pretty simple:  Productions from the big studios cost $40M - $80M minimum.  If it\'s expected to be a "tentpole" production with expensive visual effects, the budget can easily reach $150M or more.  When a studio executive is making the decision to approve an investment that big, they are not willing to take any risks and be held responsible for a failure.  Therefore, they will make the most conservative choices possible, and base their decision on the box office success of past films in the genre.  

The box office records set by Spiderman and Spiderman 2 are the PRIMARY reason why you\'re seeing so many superhero films in production now.  This stuff about "comic characters are famous and a part of american history" is way down the list of considerations.  The aholes that approve movie studio spending are not the kind of people who read comic books as kids!  They couldn\'t care less whether there is an rationale for producing these films based on american culture.  They care about one thing:  RETURN ON INVESTMENT.  If films about Siberian Prostitutes became the genre that earned $200 Million at the boxoffice, then those are the films you would see produced by the major studios.

BTW Hollywood will stop making superhero movies when they stop making money.  No other reason.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Do you not read or think before you post?  I know you don\'t actually think through what you are posting, because most the time no one understands what you are trying to say.

The simple fact is these characters are famous and it is easy for a movie studio to make them into a movie franchise. Why shouldn\'t they? The people obviously want this. The people have always supported the comic to television series and now they are embracing the comic to film industry and as long as the industry keeps pumping out quality titles, then there is no reason for Hollywood to stop and there is no reason for the fans to cry.

Thats because ENGLISH aint my FIRST LANGUAGE!

What you described doesnt differ.Where did I say they shouldnt make them.I enjoy some of them as well.Its that most original efforts are weak.Mediocre movies that fail to get the best impressions.Good original movies are mediocre.The industry seems to lack that sense of creativity and originality.
Superhero movies is just shift from one art(comics) to another(movies).
Studios as you said find its as the best non-risky way to gain money.They dont risk it with good ideas because they fail to make them
We never disagreed.And actually you didnt exactly have a different opinion with ROL Jamas.
What we are saying here is that the movie industry shouldnt stay with remaking of superhero stories from one arto to another.They shouldnt be the only quality movies that we get.
We want original quality movies as well

[GmanJoe]

Comic book heros have had thier stories plagerized by Hollywood for decades. What you see as tired old Hollywood formulas today are alot older than you think. A lot of these action stories were inspired by young comic book artists from the Depression Era of America. The only difference is the Hollywood heroes didn\'t put on a mask or cape. It took nearly 70 years for technology to finally put some of these super heroes on the silver screen.

Hollywood knows its work will be scrutinized by comic book fans of all ages. And some of these fans are huge Hollywood directors
and producers. Look what happened to Batman. When Joel Schumacher fudged up Batman, no writer or director would dare touch it again coz they were afraid to kill this hero. It\'s taken years for one to finally be approved.

What\'s my point? I forgot.

[MPTheory]

Im going to watch and enjoy this movie, simply because Halle is in it. She could have my babies any day!

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Hamster, no I don\'t. I love super-hero\'s and would love more comic to movie translations, as long as they are done properly.

By properly do you mean how you want them to be done? :rolleyes:

I think I have to agree with Unicorn. Like you said LiC, movie makers know the huge following many comics carry with them. If the opportunity to capitalize on an idea that\'s already been checked and a stamped APPROVED by the public comes along who is going to turn it down? It\'s win win; they turn the level of potential failure down to as minimal as possible and they get their money.

[SirMystiq]

Catwoman sucks...will suck and will continue sucking at the box office, that movie looks terrible.

Go THE VILLAGE!!





The Batman movie had better not be ruined by some shitty story or over-the-top special effects. Hopefully it would be as good as the original.


THX...Best Avatarr EVER

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by L i L K u B B s
By properly do you mean how you want them to be done? :rolleyes:

I think I have to agree with Unicorn. Like you said LiC, movie makers know the huge following many comics carry with them. If the opportunity to capitalize on an idea that\'s already been checked and a stamped APPROVED by the public comes along who is going to turn it down? It\'s win win; they turn the level of potential failure down to as minimal as possible and they get their money.

Don\'t try and put words into my mouth. So far , most the comic films have been fairly good and due to that, the comic to movie industry is striving. Once a couple crap movie\'s come ou back to back, then the industry will take a hit. Until then, there is no reason not to embrace this current craze, unless you are someone who did not enjoy the comics.


Me, myself, I am excited for future films like.

Spider-Man 3
X-3
Batman: Begin\'s (Yes!)
And with the newest news on \'Superman\', I am also excited about that.

I see no problem with this industry. There are indie films, if that is what you want. There is original forgein films, if that is what you want and there are mainstream comic films, if that is what you want.  Unicorn just likes to bitch and whine about most things , in my opinion.

Oh and one more thing, Hollywood is meant to be mainstream. There are less mainstream indie films that are great, but it requires you not to be a lazy bastard and actually search for them.

The Batman movie had better not be ruined by some shitty story or over-the-top special effects. Hopefully it would be as good as the original.
 
 

Nolan has said the movie will feature minimal CGI. And by the "original" , do you mean \'89? Or the 60\'s?

[SirMystiq]

80\'s!

Never seen the 60\'s one, I didn\'t know one existed. Well I guess I should go to BlockBuster and check it out.

That\'s great. The guy playing Batman(who\'s name I can\'t remember at this instant...Christian Bale?) would be a great one for Batman. If he has that attitude like he had in Equilibrium then this movie is going to rock.

Batman > Superman any day.

I have to agree with LIC. Today\'s movies can really be overdone by directors and I agree that they should be kept as close to their roots as possible and shouln\'t be made to adapt to the beliefs of stupid teenagers, such as myself, who are interested only in sex, drugs and violence...I can appreciate good movies when they come around.


Speaking of that, The Notebook was one hell of a sappy movie but it had a good "I\'m going to cry" zing to it.

LIC, every movie company is jumping on the bandwagon to try and get a quick $$$. For every one good super hero movie there are like three crap-ass ones. Spidermans good, x-mens good, and maybe one or two other good ones, but other then that it is basically just a scam to make money.

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
LIC, every movie company is jumping on the bandwagon to try and get a quick $$$. For every one good super hero movie there are like three crap-ass ones. Spidermans good, x-mens good, and maybe one or two other good ones, but other then that it is basically just a scam to make money.

Every movie company? Right...

You have..

Sony..
WB..
New Line
Yeah, that\'s every movie company :rolleyes:. Get your fact\'s straight, just because two companies are putting out a lot of comic book movie\'s, it does not mean "every movie company" is.

And for your comment about every good one  - please, englighten us.

If you go by the general public opinion..

X-Men was great (tho\' I dislike it)

X-2 was excellent (I enjoy it)

Spider-Man also was loved by the public.

Spider-Man 2 set records.

The Hulk got decent reviews

DareDevil dd fairly well

Blade has became a big franchise.


Infact, right now the only modern super-hero film to do truly bad was \'The Punisher\'...  

I love how some of you post without thinking through what you are saying. Today\'s comic to film\'s translations are doing a lot better than the previous DC efforts (Superman and Batman sequels). We are actually getting fairly good comic to film translations.

Never seen the 60\'s one, I didn\'t know one existed. Well I guess I should go to BlockBuster and check it out.
 
 That\'s great. The guy playing Batman(who\'s name I can\'t remember at this instant...Christian Bale?) would be a great one for Batman. If he has that attitude like he had in Equilibrium then this movie is going to rock.
 

Don\'t call yourself a Batman fan if you don\'t know of the 60\'s show / movie and the 40\'s serial.

Superherohype.com is your friend.

I love the 60\'s show. I used to watch it all the damn time when i was a kid. I remember one guy who would go around killing people with his scarf. And that model batmobile was awesome. Well at least when i was a kid.

I used to like superman but i kinda grew out of him.

and cat woman looks like its going to suck. Always has. Even the game looks sub par

Just because a movie sells well doesn\'t mean it was actually good. IMO the hulk and Daredevil were crapass.

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Just because a movie sells well doesn\'t mean it was actually good. IMO the hulk and Daredevil were crapass.

Yet both of them was fairly faithful to their comic adapations. Most comic fans think they are good film\'s and I think that speaks volumes when on this topic..

You stated for every good superhero movie, there was three bad one\'s and that is simply not the case. Even if you count \'Hulk\' and \'Daredevil\' as crapass movie\'s you have to look at the recent list of Marvel titles.

X-MEN
BLade
Blade 2
X-2
Spider-Man
Spider-Man2
The Punisher
The Hulk
Daredevil

You say that \'The Hulk\' is crap, along with \'Daredevil\' and finally \'The Punisher\'. That is three "crapass" movie\'s out of a total of three out of eight . Not quite your three to one ratio, eh?  I do not argue that with the popularity more crap movie\'s will be released, but as it stands, the industry is doin\' fine and it\'s doin\' fine for a reason. Comic\'s are part of American History and as long as the movie\'s are even remotely faithful, people will enjoy them.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by Unicron!
Thats because ENGLISH aint my FIRST LANGUAGE!

Isn\'t your first language.