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Offline GigaShadow
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« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2004, 03:27:50 PM »
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You are a f*cking idiot. You take an entire speech and boil it down to one anecdote about blacks supporting the democratic party? You are a joke. Plain and simple.
You are a hypocrite. If that is the case what has Bush done in his career that makes him deserve your lips on his nuts at all times? He is a past alcoholic, a former drug user, executed more prisoners than any governor in history, has one of the worst environmental policies ever, created the largest defecit in american history, and destroyed foreign relations after having almost unilateral worldwide support.

But hey... at least he didn\'t protest with people who said "cracker"

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Whats wrong Black Sam the truth hurt?  I don\'t support everything Bush does, but he is much more the man than Sharpton could ever hope to be jackass.  How is that being hypocritical - we are talking about a persons character here not policies.  So what if the "most" executions took place during the time he was governor!?!?!?  I am pro capital punishment - doesn\'t bother me one bit.

Sharpton has as much political respect as David Duke - he was the joke of the primaries and now he is the joke of the convention.  He did a lot more than protest with people who said cracker dumbass.

I would hope that you are not blinded by racism that you can\'t see it?  The evidence is overwhelming about Sharpton.  Even Jesse Jackson who has had a slip of the tongue as well is 10 times the leader Sharpton is. Sharpton is two bit race baiter who:

Defended rapists.
Knowingly backed a woman who made up a story about being raped.
Incited hatred towards Jews in which 3 people were killed.
Should I go on?

Why did he do these things?  Racism.

Now back to speech...

:laughing:

He didn\'t say anything new or enlightening.  There wasn\'t one original thought in that whole thing.  A great speech?  Do you even know what one is?  You are also failing to realize that people like Sharpton don\'t exactly help Kerry with the largest voter segment out there - moderates like myself.  

For the record I am voting for Bush, but if Kerry wins I won\'t really care - in the end he will do the exact same thing regarding foreign policy that Bush did.  I am not enthused about either, but it could be worse - Hillary Clinton could be running.
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« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2004, 03:29:31 PM »
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the cops were mad because dinkins went to go see an african amer..who was brutaly abused by the police...i think something happened to the cop as well..not sure about the cop...but the nypd felt dinkins betrayed them by going to visit this youngster..they went to the streets protesting and guliani was right in the middle of them protesting..and some of those ny police officers held signs up saying "that nigger must go!"... it was truly baffling because if you really think about it...it wasn\'t that long ago....

when guliani came into office it was like open season on minorities..


*gives black sammy a pound* ;)


Like I said clips put up or shut up.  You can\'t prove Guilliani was racist and if that is your only defense about Sharpton you are as big of an idiot as BS.  

I am still waiting for my link...  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2004, 03:47:37 PM »
what do you mean only defense? i have sat here & compared the two..i have made two clear-cut comparisons between sharpton & guliani...sorry but i couldn\'t find links on it..i googled everything on it..i\'ll try again t\'morrow...but like i said..you\'re only a little bit older than i\'am and even if you weren\'t into politics the way you are now you should\'ve still heard about it...

i\'ve compared both you say sharpton\'s a racist i say guliani was one...only he enforced it from the mayor\'s office..


let me say this since you don\'t seem to get it..what if there was a huge amount of incidents involving ny officers(preferibly afri. amer.) abusing white people..and i mean ALOT of white people under dinkins watch..do you not think that white people would be in an uproar that they could not walk the streets without bein harrassed? yes they would! this is how it was when guliani was mayor bottomline...

now of course there were cases were minorities were up to no good...the point i\'m making is that there was ALOT of police brutality that guliani knew about & he constantly took their side...what does that tell you about the way he treated minorities? he treated them unfairly! capeesh?..c\'mon giga i didn\'t think i would have to break it down for you in every nook & cranny..
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« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2004, 03:51:23 PM »
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what do you mean only defense? i have sat here & compared the two..i have made two clear-cut comparisons between sharpton & guliani...sorry but i couldn\'t find links on it..i googled everything on it..i\'ll try again t\'morrow...but like i said..you\'re only a little bit older than i\'am and even if you weren\'t into politics the way you are now you should\'ve still heard about it...

i\'ve compared both you say sharpton\'s a racist i say guliani was one...only he enforced it from the mayor\'s office..


let me say this since you don\'t seem to get it..what if there was a huge amount of incidents involving ny officers(preferibly afri. amer.) abusing white people..and i mean ALOT of white people under dinkins watch..do you not think that white people would be in an uproar that they could not walk the streets without bein harrassed? yes they would! this is how it was when guliani was mayor bottomline...

now of course there were cases were minorities were up to no good...the point i\'m making is that there was ALOT of police brutality that guliani knew about & he constantly took their side...what does that tell you about the way he treated minorities? he treated them unfairly! capeesh?..c\'mon giga i didn\'t think i would have to break it down for you in every nook & cranny..


Sources clips - your opinion that he was racist is just that - an opinion, whereas Sharpton is a documented and notorious racist.  I remember the NYPD sodomizing some African immigrant with a broom stick - but that was the NYPD, not Guilliani.  You can\'t hold the man responsible for what other people do, unless he orders them to do it - which you have no shred of proof on.  Sharpton\'s actions were witnessed my numerous people first hand and have been well documented.  

You are mixing apples and oranges trying to justify Sharpton\'s disgusting behavior.
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« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2004, 03:51:52 PM »
Off topic- what the hell is a nook and cranny?

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« Reply #50 on: August 02, 2004, 06:20:14 PM »
Samurai, why don\'t you learn from clips and argue without the profanity?

And I\'m still wondering why Sharpton only helps out blacks...

Aren\'t men of God supposed to help everyone?
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« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2004, 06:38:36 PM »
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Samurai, why don\'t you learn from clips and argue without the profanity?

 


That would take time to do for him;) j/k

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« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2004, 07:25:27 PM »
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Samurai, why don\'t you learn from clips and argue without the profanity?

And I\'m still wondering why Sharpton only helps out blacks...

Aren\'t men of God supposed to help everyone?


Erm...wasn\'t Giga arguing with profanity, too? Sure, it was in defense, but it\'s going on from both ways.

Personally I thought Al Sharpton\'s speech at the DNC was pretty good, though he did go off on a tangent in the middle of it.

Of course, the media coverage was...less than superb.

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« Reply #53 on: August 02, 2004, 07:30:05 PM »
Who wants to see a babbling baffoon speak? Not I.

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« Reply #54 on: August 02, 2004, 09:51:14 PM »
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Whats wrong Black Sam the truth hurt?  I don\'t support everything Bush does, but he is much more the man than Sharpton could ever hope to be jackass.  How is that being hypocritical - we are talking about a persons character here not policies.  So what if the "most" executions took place during the time he was governor!?!?!?  I am pro capital punishment - doesn\'t bother me one bit.

Sharpton has as much political respect as David Duke - he was the joke of the primaries and now he is the joke of the convention.  He did a lot more than protest with people who said cracker dumbass.

Are you blinded by racism that you can\'t see it?  The evidence is overwhelming about Sharpton.  Even Jesse Jackson who has had a slip of the tongue as well is 10 times the leader Sharpton is. Sharpton is two bit race baiter who:

Defended rapists.
Knowingly backed a woman who made up a story about being raped.
Incited hatred towards Jews in which 3 people were killed.
Should I go on?

Why did he do these things?  Racism.

Now back to speech...

:laughing:

He didn\'t say anything new or enlightening.  There wasn\'t one original thought in that whole thing.  A great speech?  Do you even know what one is?  You are also failing to realize that people like Sharpton don\'t exactly help Kerry with the largest voter segment out there - moderates like myself.  

For the record I am voting for Bush, but if Kerry wins I won\'t really care - in the end he will do the exact same thing regarding foreign policy that Bush did.  I am not enthused about either, but it could be worse - Hillary Clinton could be running.


You a moderate?!?
Then what am I?
A conservative Democrat?

HAHAHA...Wow, this guy is a true Republican. Hey say hello to the KKK leader for me would ya?


"The issue of government is not to determine who may sleep together in the bedroom, it\'s to help those that might not be eating in the kitchen.

We cannot welcome those to come and then try and act as though any culture will not be respected or treated inferior. We cannot look at the Latino community and preach one language. No one gave them an English test before they sent them to Iraq to fight for America."

---You said the Republican Party was the party of Lincoln and Frederick Douglass. It is true that Mr. Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, after which there was a commitment to give 40 acres and a mule.

That\'s where the argument, to this day, of reparations starts. We never got the 40 acres. We went all the way to Herbert Hoover, and we never got the 40 acres.

We didn\'t get the mule. So we decided we\'d ride this donkey as far as it would take us. ---

Wow, so you took that one bit and made it the center of the speech? I don\'t think he was bitching about the acres, the guy just made a point. GWB can\'t compare with Lincoln or Douglass. He isn\'t smart enough.

"It was those that earned our vote that got our vote. We got the Civil Rights Act under a Democrat. We got the Voting Rights Act under a Democrat. We got the right to organize under Democrats.

As I ran for president, I hoped that one child would come out of the ghetto like I did, could look at me walk across the stage with governors and senators and know they didn\'t have to be a drug dealer, they didn\'t have to be a hoodlum, they didn\'t have to be a gangster, they could stand up from a broken home, on welfare, and they could run for president of the United States."


I liked all of those quotes, specially the one about people preaching one language. Great.

Anyways, it\'s hard to argue with someone that is so far back in time.

You remind me of the father of the star of "American History X". You can work and deal with black people or minorities or whatever but when you get home you tell your kids how much their trying to infiltrate their lives and how they shouln\'t listen to all the stuff they say and all this other BS. If you\'ve seen the movie you\'ll know what I\'m talking about.
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Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2004, 09:56:13 PM »
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HAHAHA...Wow, this guy is a true Republican. Hey say hello to the KKK leader for me would ya?



....wtf?

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« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2004, 10:08:43 PM »
===Whats wrong Black Sam the truth hurt? I don\'t support everything Bush does, but he is much more the man than Sharpton could ever hope to be jackass. How is that being hypocritical - we are talking about a persons character here not policies. So what if the "most" executions took place during the time he was governor!?!?!? I am pro capital punishment - doesn\'t bother me one bit.===

"Black Sam"---clearly a racial issue

Bush "more than the man"---Clearly a lie...

"jackass"---Giga just being himself

"I am pro capital punishment"---Republican BS

Too bad Bush was governor of Texas. I\'m officially moving.

So if you mix racial issues, lying, giving insults but doesn\'t appreciate receiving them back, the hypocrisy of trying to "save lifes" and then trying to take away lives...what do you get?
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #57 on: August 02, 2004, 10:17:16 PM »
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"Black Sam"---clearly a racial issue


whatever...

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Bush "more than the man"---Clearly a lie...


or opinion


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"I am pro capital punishment"---Republican BS


Could you imagine havin a family member brutally murdered, taken away from you for your lifetime, while the murderer sits in a cell. To me, thats getting away with it. If answer is yes, check your sack and make sure you have balls.


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Too bad Bush was governor of Texas. I\'m officially moving.
 



And he was president of the US. Why dont you move to mexico?

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« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2004, 10:24:36 PM »
Killing somebody for killing another person is a stupid and animalistic way of dealing with problems. Hey why don\'t we just kill all of the people in prisons and get it over with?

Anyways...if you like to talk about opinion that was my opinion of his post.

Good thing you say that he "was" president of the US. Mexico? Are you crazy? The President\'s screw people over and tell the whole world. At least here they try to hide it.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #59 on: August 03, 2004, 02:08:01 AM »
Wow i stop coming for two days or so and we are already on page 3.

It all started from a speach. *Sigh*

Its too bad i had to come in so late. I dont even know where to start. One thing is for sure though - Giga i understand where you are coming from on some of your points but others are just ... something else that im not going to touch on at this point. Of course that must mean something like I dont know what im talking about:rolleyes: (if that makes any sense to you at all).

Meh...

When talking about his speech you criticized his grammar. Obviously you dont know too much about speaches and drawing in your audience. Perhaps in your overly conservative world a few places for incorrect grammar arent tolerated, but its a tactic. Whether he used it for tatical purposes or not im not sure but it IS a speach "tactic."

On the whole "not standing up for the rights of non-blacks" situation and being racist, id have to say thats a shady issue (of course everything is with us non conservative democrats eh?;) ). I understand (more or less) his turning down the opportunity to not defend a non black but that doesnt necisarily mean hes a racist. It doesnt mean that hes not a racist either but for a "wannabe preacher" on a mission, its his goal to secure a better world for blacks. I guess its really a difficult thing to explain and even if i did, the chance of some of the people picking up on it is slim.

And giga: Is it really that hard to fit two quotes in the same post?

jfwu

Viv on CP: I think it can often be worse for somebody to live their life out in a damn cage for the rest of their lives. Im just playing the devils advocate on this one, but considering this country is built off of christian beliefs, i dont think it would be very christian or holy like to just off and kill a man that has sinned so terribly. Thou shall not kill? Why lower ourselves to his level (the muderer that is)?

Just had to come in with a few words on the subject.
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