Barack Obama

Originally posted by QuDDus
Your post is crock. White folks will never let a blackman run this country. You are trying to say that there has never been a qualified african american in this country that would make a great president?  

While I could come with a list of bad presidents that white ppl have put in office. That were not qualified Including the current one.

You are the most racist person on this board Quddus. I dont care what your come back is for my post because I know it will be rediculous.

"White folks will never let a blackman run this country."

Suck my cock. Do you know every white person? Your views are so centered around racism that you yourself become racist.

"While I could come with a list of bad presidents that white ppl have put in office."

So what do you think we should do? Since the white people havent proven to be successful presidents give the blacks a try?

"You are trying to say that there has never been a qualified african american in this country that would make a great president?"

If you know anything about politics, you would know that presidential canidates are always rich businessmen. And thats more true than ever today. So not only must a black canidate have a strong patriotical background, hes gotta be rich, too. How many black men out there today are out there like that, and have the guts to attempt it risking their life by radical racists in the country today? Slim number I\'d say.

If you truly believe having a black president will help the country, then whats the point of trying to forget about our differences if our skin color can determine such a thing.

[clips]

meh i see what you\'re sayin viv but cut him some slack..he does make a point and that is "that he could come up with a list of bad presidents white peeps have put in office..." tru indeed...that said it doesn\'t take much than to look no further than your own post to see the real state of the matter when it comes to race relations in the u.s...you say "how many rich black men out there are willing to risk that?"

there are alot of rich afri amer. in the u.s... the very fact that you acknowledge the point that they fear being assasinated, further reinforces qdog\'s point about it\'s never going to be a black person in the white house.

the fact of the matter is that even tho as i have said but giga stated it more clearly that an afri amer.. would virtualy have to come across as colorless, that would still not be enough for some in this country..as i feel there would still be some that would be highly upset about it..& not just those that are in the south...

just to add to the part about the assassination..maybe every afri. amer wouldn\'t think this...but trust it would always be in the back of his head....

and viv your last sentence makes perfect sense..it shouldn\'t be about color when it comes to the presidency or anything in life..but unfortunately,..that\'s not reality..the media, myself and others would make a big deal out of having our 1st black president...

The assasination talk is baseless - there are crackpots who want to kill Bush, but they won\'t succeed - at least in the case of the homegrown nutcases.  The Secret Service is very good at what they do.  Black/white - it makes no difference.  If you are President there will always be a group that given the chance would assasinate you for various reasons - both political and personal.

A candidate should look at Americans as just that - not white Americans, not black Americans - just Americans.  Don\'t pander to racial lobbying on either side.

Also for once, I have to agree with Vivi\'s brutally honest assesment of Quddus\'s views.  They are... how shall I say... non constructive?

Id have to say that i can agree with quddus on some of his views in a more mild manor. Perhaps its the bluntness in how he expresses it but its not all just a crock. Clips summed up how i feel about the subject more or less.

As for "assasination talk" - Sure there are people who would want to kill bush but its not because of race issues at all. Perhaps some people wouldnt like the way a certain black president handled things, but his/her race would add that extra bit for a larger chance of getting assasinated. The subject isnt really that important to begin with. Im just saying that you can be extreme to a certain level about how you hate the way somebody runs a country, but some morons can be 10x\'s more extreme about hating somebody just because of the simple fact that they arent white (lets face it - whether you are black, white, hispanic or asian, we are all just used to seeing a lot of white faces in such roles, let alone anywhere else).

Originally posted by Lord Nicon


As for "assasination talk" - Sure there are people who would want to kill bush but its not because of race issues at all. Perhaps some people wouldnt like the way a certain black president handled things, but his/her race

You can\'t be totally certain that theres not someone out there that wants to kill Bush because he\'s white. People hate white people too, why is it when someone hates white people there not racist, there radical???

Originally posted by mjps21983
You can\'t be totally certain that theres not someone out there that wants to kill Bush because he\'s white. People hate white people too, why is it when someone hates white people there not racist, there radical???

I hope you arent trying to put words into my mouth. Im not assuming, but i never said anything about blacks not being racist but radical.

That clear

Im sure there\'s somebody that wouldnt mind killing Bush because hes white, but im sure that most arent so diehard racist or hell bent on the fact that it would make assassinating him a  feasible action to take. Im not trying to be racist and if you dont agree with me then thats fine, but most of the times, white people (or in this case, white racists) are more likely to go out of their way to do something extreme for a cause that seems less than reasonable (to some people). Thus one of the reasons why there really isnt any such thing as a black "klan" etc etc.

In simple terms: "I" think it would be easier to fathom seeing a white man killing a black president for racial issues than a black man killing a white president for racial issues.

From a couple of comments already made in this thread, im sure im not alone in thinking this.

Im sure the black panthers respect other races :rolleyes:

Originally posted by ViVi
Im sure the black panthers respect other races :rolleyes:

I just thought it was worth pointing out that the Black Panthers were more about protecting black people than they were about destroying white people.

Plus, they haven\'t been relevant for almost 30 years so I don\'t even know why you brought them up.

The black panthers are just as alive as the KKK. And you could call the KKK "protecting white people" too, but really both are racist groups that dislike others.

Vivi, although I know what you are saying that\'s pushing it, a lot.  I really don\'t think the black panthers would be around, or at least as prolific back in the day if the kkk didn\'t exist.

[Titan]

Didn\'t the KKK originally come together not for racial reasons but to protect themselves from revenge seeking ex-slaves? I heard that on the History Channel.

Originally posted by Titan
Didn\'t the KKK originally come together not for racial reasons but to protect themselves from revenge seeking ex-slaves? I heard that on the History Channel.

Perhaps thats true, but it really doesnt mean much.

Originally posted by ViVi
The black panthers are just as alive as the KKK. And you could call the KKK "protecting white people" too, but really both are racist groups that dislike others.

That has to be one of the dumbest things ive heard come out of your in this thread. The black panther party just as alive as the Klan? Are you retarded? The BPP hasnt really been as alive as the klan for around 20 years if not more. The BPP didnt go out of their way just to mess with white people. The BPP (originally) established food kitchens and things to help the black comunity. Things that in no way hindered any white american.

Ever since Huey Newton and the rest of the ring leaders were out of the picture, the BPP basically fell apart. And it was partially the actions of the FBI that lead to their demise in the first place (planting false letters, killing members etc). Even if you cant agree with that, you couldnt possibly deny the fact that the BPP was far more political than the KKK and "helped its people" in less extreme ways.

I really dont think you know what you are talking about, so if you could (please), leave the stupid comments out of this thread.

Thanks

To say that the racism in this country would not affect an election is absurd.

Reguardless of qualifications, a black man faces a much harder win then a white man due to racism.

What do you think Im trying to argue, that the black panthers are worse than the KKK? Hell no. And what makes you think the KKK is still running strong today? And if the black panthers were mostly political, then why didnt they just merge with the NAACP?


And what other dumb things have I said in this thread, you got some grudge against me?

[Titan]

Nicon, the second quote in your post is not from me. Now people think I made a dumb post