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Offline SirMystiq

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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2004, 05:56:24 AM »
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That is very anti American - calling the terrorists not the enemy and labeling them freedom fighters. :rolleyes:  Their uprising is nowhere near the same as our Revolutionary war.  Did minutemen run around and kidnap people and then behead them?  I can\'t say this enough Mystiq - do some research before you type a dumbass response - I do try and respond to your posts, but it is really starting to feel like a job.  The British didn\'t "invade" the "colonies".  Do they even teach American History anymore?  

Mystiq I do believe you are bitter about this country\'s laws and you lash out at anyone in office who doesn\'t put hispanics and immigration first.  It effects your overall attitude towards almost every post in CE.  Let me give a little news flash - The Democrats who you think will help your family and their immigration status - won\'t.  Also don\'t whine about minorities not getting a better education as you have stated that your grades are "not too good".  You shouldn\'t even bring up education as you obviously have no personal interest in it.

I also fail to see how you think the insurgents are winning - can you name a major battle that they have won?  Do you know or even have any idea what would constitute a tactical victory in Iraq?  If your definition of winning is getting spineless wimps like yourself to declare them winners for killing a few of our troops then I guess they are winning. :rolleyes:

The only area I see where these terrorists could proclaim victory is getting Spain and the Phillipines to withdraw their token forces.


I see an American soldier die for a war that turned out to be a false, you see an American soldier that died doing "his job" I don\'t think it\'s fine that Bush just "made a mistake" and sent so many troops to die to make Hussein get rid of his WMD that never existed.

Didn\'t Saddam give up weapons that he had legal right too just to show how serious he was about not having WMD?

I see almost a thousand soldiers dead after Bush declared "mission accomplished" You see "a few of our troops" dying.


The Iraqis aren\'t "terrorist" because that is what MM said, or that is what your quote states. The "freedom fighters" are the Iraqi people and why the hell would they be fighting if it wasn\'t for freedom. B/c all of the ones attacking our forces are only doing it b/c they feel that the US has stayed there way too long.

Give it up with the immigration issue. I honestly don\'t care if you assume I\'m angry b/c they didn\'t push the immigration reform enough. I\'m not but if it helps you tear apart my character in this forums I don\'t care. Also you don\'t know half about me or my intelligence except for whatever I post in these boards. I honestly don\'t care to accomodate the way I post to fit your reasoning. And go ahead and continute to attack my character and intelligence, I won\'t go cry about it.

A spineless wimp?

I supposse that is better than a heartless bastard.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2004, 06:13:27 AM »
First of all WMD\'s weren\'t the only reason we invaded Iraq.  Yes, none have been found as of this time and yes, it was one of the major reasons we invaded, but the war on terror is now primarily being fought in Iraq as opposed to here.  The ones fighting US and coalition troops are not the ones who want freedom.  They are the ones who want to set up a theocracy like Iran\'s or put another person like Saddam in power.  You call that freedom???  The Iraqi\'s have been given a gift and if they chose not to use it and take advantage of all of its benefits it is their fault alone.  The reality is post war Iraq is way more difficult than anyone predicted, but giving up and walking away is not the answer - it will just reenforce your belief that our servicemen have died for nothing.  

A thousand soldiers is a price, but if you look at it in context with all of the other major American conflicts it is not that much.  What I am interested in is the question of would you have been whining about casualities during WW2, WW1, the Korean War, etc?  It seems that some can\'t stomach ANY losses and IMO that portrays our country as weak to our enemies.  Your Iraqi "freedom fighters" don\'t lament over the number their losses do they?  

As for attacking you - I respond to your posts which some of the time contradict themselves (see the "we need better education, but my grades suck" topics).  I attack the content of your posts and if you looked yesterday I actually agreed with you in one post.
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« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2004, 09:45:37 AM »
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opinions?

michael moore purposely manipulates timelines and facts for his convienence

he\'s clever, i\'ll give him that, but he\'s a flat out propaganda machine.


So is Rush . He\'s the Republican version. Both sides have their propaganda machines.

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« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2004, 12:59:05 PM »
Its America.

Expect TV to be stupid.

It is what teaches our children afterall.
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« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2004, 08:50:53 PM »
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Its America.

Expect TV to be stupid.

It is what teaches our children afterall.
I love when you try to sound smart, but come off looking like a jackass.

No offense, but I think no matter how bad none of us get along in this forum, we can all agree on one thing...

What is that you ask?

Your opinion doesn\'t count.

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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2004, 04:10:07 AM »
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No offense, but I think no matter how bad none of us get along in this forum, we can all agree on one thing...

What is that you ask?

Your opinion doesn\'t count.


:laughing: That was pretty funny LIC.
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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2004, 09:03:35 AM »
Not only was it funny but it was very true.
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« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2004, 09:39:03 AM »
well i don\'t know about them winning, but i know morale is not the greatest among american troops..thing is these terrorists the u.s. are facing now i believe are outside fighters...and they are committed to driving out the the u.s. making the whole region unstable..they don\'t necessarily want to defeat the u.s. ..they just want to make living there unbearable and to show that the u.s. with all it\'s military might cannot provide security...

as far as mm goes in some instances you can call some of these people freedom fighters..like when it comes to the palestinians..to some degree i feel they are...but giga you stated the iraqi\'s were given a gift...explain that to the few whose houses were bombed in the shock & awe campaign:rolleyes:

you can\'t force democracy on a nation if they don\'t want it...maybe some of the iraqi\'s are coming around to it, i\'m not sure,..because in the very beginning (spel) i felt it was strickly iraqi\'s attacking the u.s....now i feel it\'s mostly outside insurgents...
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2004, 09:44:20 AM »
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well i don\'t know about them winning, but i know morale is not the greatest among american troops....


And you know this how???

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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2004, 10:08:22 AM »
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And you know this how???


just reading about it & hearing it on the news in general...yes there are some there that are proud to be there,..but some also are dredding the fact that they are in some type of quadmire...it\'s kinda troubling to hear of some of the suicides that have taken place that your hardly ever hear about...
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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2004, 10:11:20 AM »
Proud to be made an illusion to it, but he basically just said that the people were ungrateful and didn\'t want to lift a finger to help rebuild their country.  That might be where clips is getting that conclusion, but since none of us are there who knows.

Clips, you mean the Iraqi\'s weren\'t given a gift by having that dictator removed?  Regardless of what type of government comes to power next, I am sure most Iraqi\'s are glad Saddam is gone.  I also fail to see how your lame attempt at sarcasm over a "few" Iraqi\'s losing huts makes my point invalid.
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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2004, 10:19:09 AM »
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Proud to be made an illusion to it, but he basically just said that the people were ungrateful and didn\'t want to lift a finger to help rebuild their country.  That might be where clips is getting that conclusion, but since none of us are there who knows.

Clips, you mean the Iraqi\'s weren\'t given a gift by having that dictator removed?  Regardless of what type of government comes to power next, I am sure most Iraqi\'s are glad Saddam is gone.  I also fail to see how your lame attempt at sarcasm over a "few" Iraqi\'s losing huts makes my point invalid.


giga you and i both know the u.s. didn\'t go there to give them a gift or to liberate the iraqi people..that said i do feel some of the iraqi\'s are grateful that we interviened,..but can you honestly say that living conditions are better than they were under saddam? i don\'t think so..and i\'m not talkin\' about him gasing his people i\'m talkin\' in the last days of his rule...you probably couldn\'t do s**t in his country but at least there was order...kinda like one of the u.s. allies good \'ol dictatoship country\'s saudi arabia...
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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2004, 10:36:21 AM »
Clips - I didn\'t say that we went their to liberate the Iraqi\'s did I?  I said they were given a gift to be free from under Saddam\'s grip.  The ones who are causing crappy living conditions are radicals and sources from outside Iraq coming there to cause trouble.
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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2004, 03:15:51 PM »
I dig Michael Moore, but even I\'m sick of all this Moore talk. Everyone should go watch a new movie.

Moore is not anti-American. He wants things to be better. Whether you agree that things need improvement or whatever else is fine, but he just sees room for improvement and happens to know how to work a video camera.

Moving on...

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« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2004, 05:14:45 PM »
Moore doesn\'t want to make things better.  He wants to profit from his movies.  Nothing more, nothing less.
Wrong. There are two other people who can.
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