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« Reply #285 on: September 30, 2004, 04:31:49 AM »
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why bitch about fable?

cause suckers who support it will continue the trend of pathetically delayed games that  end up being half-assed anyways.

oh, and because peter M.  belongs in the closet.

 


1)You just insulted 80% of the forum members

2)Nobody bought the game because of the hype

3)Nobody enjoys the game thanks to a delusion caused from the hype.If they play the game and it sucks they will know

4)Gamers search for good games regardless the development time

5)Whats you problem if people like the game?Should they not like or enjoy it because it\'s not as perfect as it should have been?Who are you to tell others what they should enjoy or not?

Oh as for the PC vs Console you seem to forget that consoles have outdated hardware compared to PCs.So things arent as easy as you make it look like for console development
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« Reply #286 on: September 30, 2004, 09:22:50 AM »
What he means is...

We\'re stuck with crap today like Britney Spears, SNL movies, American Idol, and endless reality shows...

Whatever they feed us and gobble up is what they\'ll keep feeding us...
July 2002: If you had bought $1000.00 worth of Nortel stock one year ago, it would now be worth $49.00. Enron, $16.50 left. Worldcom, $5.00 left. If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of Budweiser beer one year ago, drank it all and turned in the cans for the 10 cent deposit, you would have $214.00. Based on the above, my current investment advice is to drink heavily and recycle.

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« Reply #287 on: September 30, 2004, 09:53:09 AM »
^Different discussion and has nothing to do specifically with Fable.He brings up issues the wrong moment in the wrong thread
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« Reply #288 on: September 30, 2004, 06:01:24 PM »
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2)Nobody bought the game because of the hype


nobody?  :laughing:

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oh, and do not even try to compare console to PC architecture.
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« Reply #289 on: September 30, 2004, 06:54:08 PM »
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^Different discussion and has nothing to do specifically with Fable.He brings up issues the wrong moment in the wrong thread


I\'m just explaining what he\'s bascially saying...

If you keep buying long delayed games, where\'s the incentive for them to work faster, next time?

If you keep buying crap, they\'ll keep selling crap...
July 2002: If you had bought $1000.00 worth of Nortel stock one year ago, it would now be worth $49.00. Enron, $16.50 left. Worldcom, $5.00 left. If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of Budweiser beer one year ago, drank it all and turned in the cans for the 10 cent deposit, you would have $214.00. Based on the above, my current investment advice is to drink heavily and recycle.

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« Reply #290 on: September 30, 2004, 07:34:09 PM »
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If you keep buying crap, they\'ll keep selling crap...


Here\'s the kicker...Fable isn\'t crap.

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« Reply #291 on: September 30, 2004, 10:33:44 PM »
To you maybe, but to mm it is.

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« Reply #292 on: October 01, 2004, 03:53:46 AM »
im not alone....

fable is a letdown, make all the excuses you want to justify your purchase
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« Reply #293 on: October 01, 2004, 05:50:52 AM »
Man you are FUNNY.You say its a letdown without even playing the game.And you are trying to prove the people who have playied the game and like it that its crap.
Nobody said its perfect.
The very same people you are disagreeing with already said and accepted the fact that its not as good as P.M promised.I am still trying to figure out why on earth even after these people agreed on that you are still trying to convince them its crap.
Yes its a letdwon considering the things P.M promised and the time of development spent.But seeing it generally as a game these dont change the fact that its a good game.Just not as good
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« Reply #294 on: October 01, 2004, 08:57:40 AM »
I didn\'t say Fable is crap...
July 2002: If you had bought $1000.00 worth of Nortel stock one year ago, it would now be worth $49.00. Enron, $16.50 left. Worldcom, $5.00 left. If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of Budweiser beer one year ago, drank it all and turned in the cans for the 10 cent deposit, you would have $214.00. Based on the above, my current investment advice is to drink heavily and recycle.

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« Reply #295 on: October 01, 2004, 09:01:05 AM »
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To you maybe, but to mm it is.


He can\'t possibly justify it without having played it.  Even if he did play it to label it as garbage he\'d have to discern what it is about the gamelplay, graphics, etc. that make it crap.

The reviews have been in for well over two weeks now, Fable is not crap by any means.  Disappointing, I\'ll give him that.  Any game can be disappointing.

Ashford, it just seemed like you were suggesting it.  My mistake.
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« Reply #296 on: October 01, 2004, 09:21:19 AM »
Ashford:Then whatever mm is trying to say has nothing to do with Fable

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« Reply #297 on: October 01, 2004, 02:39:20 PM »
hello peter M?  meet the closet.

A message from Peter Molyneux.
There is something I have to say. And I have to say it because I love making games. When a game is in development, myself and the development teams I work with constantly encourage each other to think of the best features and the most ground-breaking design possible.

However, what happens is that we strive to include absolutely everything we\'ve ever dreamt of and, in my enthusiasm, I talk about it to anyone who\'ll listen, mainly in press interviews. When I tell people about what we\'re planning, I\'m telling the truth, and people, of course, expect to see all the features I\'ve mentioned. And when some of the most ambitious ideas get altered, redesigned or even dropped, people rightly want to know what happened to them.

If I have mentioned any feature in the past which, for whatever reason, didn\'t make it as I described into Fable, I apologise. Every feature I have ever talked about WAS in development, but not all made it. Often the reason is that the feature did not make sense. For example, three years ago I talked about trees growing as time past. The team did code this but it took so much processor time (15%) that the feature was not worth leaving in. That 15 % was much better spent on effects and combat. So nothing I said was groundless hype, but people expecting specific features which couldn\'t be included were of course disappointed. If that\'s you, I apologise. All I can say is that Fable is the best game we could possibly make, and that people really seem to love it.

I have come to realise that I should not talk about features too early so I am considering not talking about games as early as I do. This will mean that the Lionhead games will not be known about as early as they are, but I think this is the more industry standard.

Our job as the Lionhead family of studios is to be as ambitious as we possibly can. But although we jump up and down in glee about the fabulous concepts and features we\'re working on, I will not mention them to the outside world until we\'ve implemented and tested them, and they are a reality.

Thank you for reading.

Peter.



oh, and 10 hour RPG\'s = letdown
thanks for playing
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« Reply #298 on: October 01, 2004, 02:53:31 PM »
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oh, and 10 hour RPG\'s = letdown


well, first you should know or remember from the 20 times I mentioned it that Fable is an adventure/rpg.  You\'ve been playing games long enough, I trust you can make the distinction between a traditional RPG and an Adventure game.

oh, and people who whine and bring up meaningless points = trolls.
Please go back to your cave.

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« Reply #299 on: October 01, 2004, 02:56:20 PM »
yeah, your mom is waiting to cook my dinner

oh, and who\'s the last dev to PUBLICALLY apologize for a game?

:laughing:

honestly, after that, you have nothing to stand on
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