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« on: September 07, 2004, 06:05:31 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2004, 07:28:13 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2004, 03:36:26 PM »
Too many of those people are too young.
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2004, 03:41:11 PM »
I went to boot camp with 4 of these guys
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2004, 06:41:03 PM »
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I went to boot camp with 4 of these guys


Are you in Iraq now or did you just get back?
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2004, 04:37:37 AM »
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Too many of those people are too young.


i agree..that s**t is just depressing...and if we would\'ve let the inspectors do their thing..even kept those sanctions in place & focused on afganastan,(spel) these cats would still be alive with their families..or still alive in the service...
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2004, 05:02:43 AM »
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and if we would\'ve let the inspectors do their thing..even kept those sanctions in place & focused on afganastan


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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2004, 06:39:49 AM »
^^^easy for you to say...i don\'t have peeps in the military but i still feel for these soldiers that  had to have their lives cut short because bush wanted to be a cowboy...
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2004, 06:58:37 AM »
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^^^easy for you to say...i don\'t have peeps in the military but i still feel for these soldiers that  had to have their lives cut short because bush wanted to be a cowboy...


Oh please STFU.  No one likes to see anyone die, but our soldiers joined the military knowing what could happen - that is their job and that is the risk they take.  Sorry if you can\'t stomach casuality reports - I can just image the whining and the belly aching if we were in a serious conflict that would be coming from people like you.

Yes, we honor these soldiers that have made the ultimate sacrifice for our country, but people like you need to get a damn backbone.  Sanctions were not working - Saddam repeatedly violated UN resolutions and the terms of his surrender at the end of the first Gulf War and you claim sanctions were working!  You claim sanctions were working when it has been proven that UN Oil for Food program was corrupt??!?!?!?!?

We are fighting Islamic fundamentalists now, not the Iraqi army.  How can this be a bad thing that we are fighting them over there as opposed to fighting them here?  Really... I can\'t fathom how you can either think removing Saddam was a bad thing and/or pulling out of Iraq now will make things better.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2004, 07:30:38 AM »
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Oh please STFU.  No one likes to see anyone die, but our soldiers joined the military knowing what could happen - that is their job and that is the risk they take.  Sorry if you can\'t stomach casuality reports - I can just image the whining and the belly aching if we were in a serious conflict that would be coming from people like you.

Yes, we honor these soldiers that have made the ultimate sacrifice for our country, but people like you need to get a damn backbone.  Sanctions were not working - Saddam repeatedly violated UN resolutions and the terms of his surrender at the end of the first Gulf War and you claim sanctions were working!  You claim sanctions were working when it has been proven that UN Oil for Food program was corrupt??!?!?!?!?

We are fighting Islamic fundamentalists now, not the Iraqi army.  How can this be a bad thing that we are fighting them over there as opposed to fighting them here?  Really... I can\'t fathom how you can either think removing Saddam was a bad thing and/or pulling out of Iraq now will make things better.


relax there cowboy...it\'s not the fact that i can\'t stomach losses, but those terrorists that are there now were not there before we invaded...now you have terroists from all over in iraq..and i guess you think the u.s. can defeat them all right? i say use the military only as a last resort...was saddam preparing to attack us? nope...like i said before the brits & u.s. were keepin saddam in check...

yea the oil for food prgm was corrupt..but anything involving money is corrupt..look at the company that was supplying our troops with food..i forgot the name but they was over charging and ruuning up humongous tabs on the u.s...saddam was a bad man but he wasn\'t an immediate threat then and he would not have been one now...you can\'t deny that iraq is more dangerous now than when saddam was in power....

the u.s. has no one to blame but itself for the fiasco in iraq...we went it alone arrogantly then when s*t hits the fan bush ran back to the u.n. (the organization you so richly despise) for help...you need to relise that you cannot hide behind missles and bombs and think that is going to keep you safe...it\'s that same type of mentallity and foreign policy that has smeared the u.s. name across the globe...
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2004, 07:43:30 AM »
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relax there cowboy...it\'s not the fact that i can\'t stomach losses, but those terrorists that are there now were not there before we invaded...now you have terroists from all over in iraq..and i guess you think the u.s. can defeat them all right? i say use the military only as a last resort...was saddam preparing to attack us? nope...like i said before the brits & u.s. were keepin saddam in check...

yea the oil for food prgm was corrupt..but anything involving money is corrupt..look at the company that was supplying our troops with food..i forgot the name but they was over charging and ruuning up humongous tabs on the u.s...saddam was a bad man but he wasn\'t an immediate threat then and he would not have been one now...you can\'t deny that iraq is more dangerous now than when saddam was in power....

the u.s. has no one to blame but itself for the fiasco in iraq...we went it alone arrogantly then when s*t hits the fan bush ran back to the u.n. (the organization you so richly despise) for help...you need to relise that you cannot hide behind missles and bombs and think that is going to keep you safe...it\'s that same type of mentallity and foreign policy that has smeared the u.s. name across the globe...


First, we didn\'t go alone - yes we are by far the largest force there, but to say we went alone is incorrect.  Countries like France oppose our foreign policy only because of their own growing insignificance in world politics.  

I can say that Iraq is less of a danger to us now than it was when Saddam was in power.  Is it more dangerous for the residents of Iraq? Probably, but I don\'t care about them.  Saddam had the ability to acquire more WMD\'s if he didn\'t still have them so he was a threat.  He had a grudge against the US since the first Gulf War and what would have prevented him from eventually sponsoring terrorist attacks on US soil?  After all he was already rewarding the families of suicide bombers in Israel with checks.  Fighting terrorists on their soil is preferable to fighting terrorists on our soil is it not?
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2004, 08:13:34 AM »
basically we are going it alone those other useless armies are insignificant..polish?...japan?.. some other 3rd world country that i have never heard of?...if he had a grudge on us since the gulf war he must have had a grudge against france russia & china who was all with us in 91...i\'m not even gonna get into him giving suicide bombers money to their families...you\'ve schooled me a great deal on that subject but ultimately i feel both sides in that situation are wrong...

as far as fighting terrorists on their soil instead of ours? yea i agree 100% but focus on one group at a time...don\'t aggrevate the situation by launching out in all directions...what i mean by that is don\'t look at iran and make threats..don\'t look at syria and make threats,..but then you look at n.korea & make no threats at all...when they were poppin s**t all over the place...it\'s true that when all is said and done these muslum countries are the ones that don\'t like us, but making threats to them specifically just makes it seems like you pointing them out...terrorists comes in all shapes and forms..not just muslims..*remebers okalhoma city bombing*

also add to the fact that the u.s, in reality cannot fight the war on terror in any more fronts,...our only true option now is to negoiate since our military is stretched way too thin anyhow....
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2004, 08:35:08 AM »
You didn\'t say negotiate with terrorists did you? :rolleyes:
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2004, 10:02:13 AM »
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You didn\'t say negotiate with terrorists did you? :rolleyes:


not with the terrorists..i meant countries like n.korea, iran,syria..the u.s. say it can fight the war on four different fronts..but the reality is that it really cannot sustain that type of strain financially & humanely...so it\'s only option at this point is to negoiate..with those countries and come to a common solution...
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2004, 10:03:59 AM »
Iran and Syria are terrorist states.  N. Korea sells stuff to terrorist states.  

You can\'t negotiate with any of those three.
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