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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Yeah - they are cry babies. What the **** ever. When the Colts went to do what New England was doing  - it was called pass interfence. I\'m sorry, but New England is not that great of a team (in my opinion), but the Colts are not cry babies.

That is because the Colts\' secondary was soft. New England had one of the most physical secondaries in the NFL last year and were used to roughing up receivers. The Colts tried to give the Pats a taste of their of own medecine but didn\'t know how.

The Pats really weren\'t breaking any rules. 99% of their contact was within 5 yards. Colts and Rams were being crybabies and complained, plain and simple.

[EDIT] Its weird how you think the Pats suck but think the Colts are great. They haven\'t won anything and Manning is one of the most overrated QBs ever. Brady has two Super Bowls and two Super Bowl MVPs and he is STILL underrated.

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by Black Samurai
That is because the Colts\' secondary was soft. New England had one of the most physical secondaries in the NFL last year and were used to roughing up receivers. The Colts tried to give the Pats a taste of their of own medecine but didn\'t know how.

The Pats really weren\'t breaking any rules. 99% of their contact was within 5 yards. Colts and Rams were being crybabies and complained, plain and simple.

[EDIT] Its weird how you think the Pats suck but think the Colts are great. They haven\'t won anything and Manning is one of the most overrated QBs ever. Brady has two Super Bowls and two Super Bowl MVPs and he is STILL underrated.

I swear to ****ing God we are not going over this shit again. We do it every year. You love New England. I hate them.

Let me explain this real quick..Yes , New England is good - but I can\'t stand them. There is not a single thing about that team I like. The Colt\'s tho, are a team that I think deserve more attention. I love the way they play.

Manning nover-rated? Give me a break. Mcnabb is over-rated. Not Manning. He has earned every bit of the attention he gets.

Originally posted by Black Samurai
That is because the Colts\' secondary was soft. New England had one of the most physical secondaries in the NFL last year and were used to roughing up receivers. The Colts tried to give the Pats a taste of their of own medecine but didn\'t know how.

The Pats really weren\'t breaking any rules. 99% of their contact was within 5 yards. Colts and Rams were being crybabies and complained, plain and simple.

[EDIT] Its weird how you think the Pats suck but think the Colts are great. They haven\'t won anything and Manning is one of the most overrated QBs ever. Brady has two Super Bowls and two Super Bowl MVPs and he is STILL underrated.

OMG black Sammy I am glad somebody finally said it. Yes Manning is overrated.
When his team needs him the most he chokes. I hate the pats and they are a great team but the colts spend to much time crying. They should have beat the pats  last year in the playoffs.

But what does manning do. The whole game manning kept whinning. That they are holding the receivers.  I lost respect for a team that won\'t fight back. And a QB that will do nothing but cry. They won\'t win this year.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I swear to ****ing God we are not going over this shit again. We do it every year. You love New England. I hate them.

We argued about this for at least a week straight last year.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Let me explain this real quick..Yes , New England is good - but I can\'t stand them. There is not a single thing about that team I like. The Colt\'s tho, are a team that I think deserve more attention. I love the way they play.

Manning nover-rated? Give me a break. Mcnabb is over-rated. Not Manning. He has earned every bit of the attention he gets.

Earned it by doing what? Throwing up gaudy numbers and never winning? Couple that with the fact that he has one of the best QB cushions in the NFL(Harrison and Edge).

How does the way they play differ from any other team with a three headed offensive attack?

Originally posted by shockwaves
He shows some flashes, but he\'s got a career QB rating under 80.  He\'s average.  He\'s not a superstar.

Thats not true even though you may think it is. But that is far from the truth buddy.

MCNABB is a true superstar. The guy is injured for god saks and his team is 0-2.  And everyone is questioning him and he bounces back and  leads his team to the nfc championship game that  is pretty darn good to me. If McNabb had not had the rib injuries I believe he could have taken his team farther. I mean the guy still goes out there and gives his all hurt and everything. He played on a broken foot. And he was awesome. Come on now the guy is great and he is a born leader.

Give this man credit.

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You\'re a bunch of heartless bastards. The Colts play with heart. Their offensive is exciting. The defense needs work tho\'. It\'s not like I have said the Pats are a team without talent - they are a talented team, I can\'t argue it, they have the wins, the champsionship and so on. I just don\'t care for any of them.

You guy\'s just don\'t get it. You seem to think I should be a fan of the Patriots because they win  - but I\'m not. Look at it like this, if people was just fans because of the talent and wins, then no one would be a Bear\'s or Bengal\'s fan now would they?

Football should strike something more than just wins. You should be able to relate to your favorite team somehow. That\'s what it is all about. When I watch the Colts play, I am interested in what is going on, I get excited.

And finally to address this whole whining bullshit - come on, it has been shown on footage that there was illegal contact now called on New England. I guess a team should just suck it up and ask for the rules not to be enforced, eh? Give me a ****ing break.

 We argued about this for at least a week straight last year.
 
 

The true start of football season - we are arguin\' about the same thing as last year.

Earned it by doing what? Throwing up gaudy numbers and never winning? Couple that with the fact that he has one of the best QB cushions in the NFL(Harrison and Edge).
 

Never winning? What the hell? Yes, the Colt\'s don\'t have a champsionship, but I think you can hardly blame that on Manning. I am a Colt\'s fan and I\'ll admit the defense and secondary needs work. Not Manning. Hell, not even the offense.

And saying that he has a cushion (Harrison) is like saying Steve Young had a cushion with Jerry Rice (see\'ing as Manning and Harrison will eventually break that record, if Harrison does indeed sign wih the Colts again next year). That\'s a complete cop out on your part. I expect more from you.

That game was pathetic. The pats defense wasn\'t dominating this game and the colts still blew it.
 
 They had great drives on almost every possesion, but they collapsed in field goal range.
 
 Pathetic.


 

Give me a break (once again). There was nothing pathetic about that game on either side. Yes, both sides had problems, but the other team was always exploiting each other\'s weakness. It makes for an exciting ballgame. Infact, the last three times the Colts have met up with New England, it\'s been exciting . This is quickly becoming a new rivalary (spell check!) game..Exciting, down to the line. I can only hope the Colts meet up with New England again, like last year.

Hehe, LIC you bring up a good point.  I\'m not a Pats fan because they win, I\'m a pats fan because thats where I grew up in my early years.  I\'m a Red Sox fan, I go through this crap all the time.  Yankee fans in Illinois, Colorado, all over the country - 90% of them have never lived in NY, and another good percent have never been to Yankee stadium.

I know where your coming from, but its just not the case for me.  Kids want to be associated with winners growing up, so there are these masses of fans where they don\'t belong.

I go through the same thing you go through in football, it\'s just a sad way of life.

Originally posted by QuDDus
Thats not true even though you may think it is. But that is far from the truth buddy.

MCNABB is a true superstar. The guy is injured for god saks and his team is 0-2.  And everyone is questioning him and he bounces back and  leads his team to the nfc championship game that  is pretty darn good to me. If McNabb had not had the rib injuries I believe he could have taken his team farther. I mean the guy still goes out there and gives his all hurt and everything. He played on a broken foot. And he was awesome. Come on now the guy is great and he is a born leader.

Give this man credit.

What\'s not true? The fact that his Career QB rating is under 80 or the fact that he\'s Not a Superstar?

"The guy is injured for god saks and his team is 0-2." - Quddus

I have no clue what that means at all. What\'s a sak, and in what is his team 0-2?

Yes, he got them to the NFC Title game. Horray. 2 of the 3 times he led them there, they were at ho me. They\'ve lost all 3 of them. Not against necessarily overpowering teams, either. Yes, he did in fact play on a broken foot at one time in his career. He just proved that just about ANYBODY can have a good game against the Arizona Cardinals in that game. Had he done it, say, against the Giants or Cowboys or something in a critical game, I might give him some more pub, but not against the Arizona Cardinals. When it comes to crunch time, I can only think of one occasion where McNabb actually came through, and it was due to a secondary breakdown. If he gets to the Super Bowl, I\'ll shut up, but frankly, I don\'t see this team making it to their normal destination of the NFC Title game.

I think you\'re mistaking Donovan McNabb with Steve McNair. Now THAT guy is a true leader. I\'m pretty sure he\'s played at least half of his career games with injuries that other quarterbacks might sit out with.

See Yuz.

[Living-In-Clip]

Mcnabb is not a great QB. He\'s a decent QB. He is not consitent enough to be a great QB. And no, playing with injuries does not make you a great QB.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Mcnabb is not a great QB. He\'s a decent QB. He is not consitent enough to be a great QB. And no, playing with injuries does not make you a great QB.

I am not saying just because he played with injuries that makes him great. Just about every qb has played through injuries. But this guy was seriously hurt and het got out on that field to consistently lead his team every week.  He has consistently lead them to the playoffs and on to the nfc championship.

How is McNabb not consistent if the eagles continue to make it to the NFC championship?

I can only think of one occasion where McNabb actually came through

The eagles continue to make the playoffs and have been to the nfc championship game 3 times in a row. Even though they lost all 3 it is still huge that he has even taken his team there 3 straight times.

You give McNabb Edgerrin and harrison and I bet he won\'t *cough* choke like manning.

LIC, im a colts fan, and they were pathetic.

Not that they should always beat the pats, but they can\'t lose that game. You have to atleast force OT when you have 3 chances in field goal range.

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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
LIC, im a colts fan, and they were pathetic.

Not that they should always beat the pats, but they can\'t lose that game. You have to atleast force OT when you have 3 chances in field goal range.

so was it more the pats D or the colts performance?... i fell asleep at halftime....

A mix of both, but the colts could have easily forced overtime or won at many points in the game.  The pats defense was not dominating.

Colts just don\'t anhv it. they need to stat foccusin on defense like dungy used to do back in TB>. its elementary

Some people just don\'t get it.

These are the top 2 teams in the AFC (as of now), the Colts will rebound, they always do.  Tennessee will contend with them as always, but it seems with every year Indianapolis gets one step further to getting to the big game.

On the other hand, New England is a team that knows how to win, and they compensate for their weaknesses.  Do I think they\'ll win every game?  Of course not, I want them too, but in todays NFL its nearly impossible.  They will have their struggles, but like every year, they will fix it and make a run for the Superbowl.

The Colts are a great team, but New England is just that much better, at the moment.