Wow, Bush really makes his case with this statement...

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by SirMystiq
The debates are coming up.

Kerry will own Bush.

As much as I dislike Bush, I also don\'t live in a fantasy world where I think Bush will lose the election due to Kerry "owning" Bush in the debates. Bush may be a sorry speaker, but the debates mean nothing when public opinion is not high of the rival and that will be Kerry\'s problem, his campaign has not generated enough postive hype to carry him through the debates and into the Whitehouse.

[SirMystiq]

Yes they can.


Alot of past presidential debates contributed to the candidate\'s votes.

For example, Gore and his never ending sighs.

Debates are a big deal because here we can actually see the two candidates respond and react on their feet and not have somebody else tell them what to say.


And Halberto...I see the Republican ads are doing their work.

[Living-In-Clip]

(1) Yes, the Republican campaigns are doin\' what they are suppose to. They are creating doubt about Kerry and his indescive mind. I hate Bush. Can\'t stand him, but I even realize that Kerry cannot make his mind up. Infact, the only reason I will vote for Kerry is because of John Edwards.

(2) Debates do not mean near as much as they use to and we all know what they are going to focus on..The war on terrorisim.

(3) Admit one thing, you\'d vote for a retard in a bib and diaper before you\'d vote Bush. You cannot honestly think John Kerry has all the answers to America\'s problems. I really doubt he will get elected and if he does, I don\'t think he will be a memorable President. Then again, if it was not for 9/11 George W. Bush would not be remembered for anything.

By that reasoning Mystiq - Lurch - I mean Kerry will really win them over... :rolleyes:

I doubt we will see anyone owning anybody.  I see Kerry giving his same contradictory answers and making feeble attempts at humor while I see Bush repeating his answers and sticking to the same things he has been saying all along.  Maybe he will even stumble over a few words - anyone who has ever done any public speaking has, but these are flaws that make him likeable - the public sees that he is human.  

Remember this first debate is about foreign policy - something Kerry is very weak in.  If the debates have any importance it is usually on the first one - as it gets the highest viewer ratings.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip

(3) Admit one thing, you\'d vote for a retard in a bib and diaper before you\'d vote Bush. You cannot honestly think John Kerry has all the answers to America\'s problems. I really doubt he will get elected and if he does, I don\'t think he will be a memorable President. Then again, if it was not for 9/11 George W. Bush would not be remembered for anything.

People will hate Bush no matter what stance he takes:

"If he stumbles over his words, he is an embarrassing idiot. If he manages to cut taxes or wage a war against Saddam Hussein with bipartisan support, he is a manipulative genius.

If he hasn\'t been able to capture Osama bin Laden, he is endangering U.S. security. If he catches bin Laden, it is only a ploy to influence the elections.

If he ignores U.N. resolutions, he is a dangerous unilateralist. If he takes U.N. resolutions on Iraq seriously, he is a dangerous unilateralist. If he doesn\'t get France to agree to his Iraq policy, he is ignoring important international actors. If he supports multiparty talks on North Korea, he is not doing enough to ignore important international actors.

If he bombed Iraq, he should have bombed Saudi Arabia instead, and if he had bombed Saudi Arabia, he should have bombed Iran, and if he had bombed all three, he shouldn\'t have bombed anyone at all. If he imposes a U.S. occupation on Iraq, he is fomenting Iraqi resistance by making the United States seem an imperial power. If he ends the U.S. occupation, he is cutting and running.

If he warns of a terror attack, he is playing alarmist politics. If he doesn\'t warn of a terror attack, he is dangerously asleep at the switch. If he says we\'re safer, he\'s lying, and if he doesn\'t say we\'re safer, he\'s implicitly admitting that he has failed in his core duty as commander in chief.

If he adopts a doctrine of preemption, he is unacceptably remaking American national-security policy. If the United States suffers a terror attack on his watch, he should have preempted it. If he signs a far-reaching antiterror law, he is abridging civil liberties. If the United States suffers another terror attack on his watch, he should have had a more vigorous anti-terror law.

Bush\'s economy hasn\'t created new jobs. If it has created new jobs, they aren\'t well-paying jobs. If they are well-paying jobs, there is still income inequality in America."

Rich Lowry
NRO
July 20, 2004

I don\'t understand the point of that Rich Lowry article.  Scrutinizing and criticizing every action of a US President is nothing new.  It\'s been going on since our nation was founded, and it\'s stupid to complain about it.  Furthermore, I think it\'s ESSENTIAL and healthy for us to question authority at every opportunity.

What worries me is when there isn\'t enough questioning of the president\'s policies, and too many people develop the belief that a president can do no wrong.  Even worse is when US citizens are accused of "treason" or "aiding the enemy" for simply speaking out against the policies of a democratically elected official.

I think hes just pointing out peoples unfair judgement on Bush, people who dislike him to feel a) rebelious b) smarter c) just likes to be negative (ooseven)

A. This country was founded with rebellious attitudes.

B. I can pronounce the word nuclear.

C. The country is not in the best of shape. IMHO it is a shame there are so many people that listen to people like Rush Limbaugh, and Reagan\'s son. Somehow every person I have met that listens to them all think they have original ideals. Yet it inevitably it was something that was on one of the aforementioned shows. So yeah I am a bit negative. There are a lot of stupid people out there.

Originally posted by Halberto
I think hes just pointing out peoples unfair judgement on Bush, people who dislike him to feel a) rebelious b) smarter c) just likes to be negative (ooseven)

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Infact, the only reason I will vote for Kerry is because of John Edwards.

My feelings exactly.  If Edwards was the democratic candidate this election would be a no-brainer.

yep...

More Bush

Why do you keep posting old stuff like this? You think its going to help support Kerry? This forum is for real debates in politics, how bout looking for stuff that has to do with politics...  And voting for someone because of the possible vice president is stupid. How often does the vice president become president?

I don\'t like Kerry, but I hate Bush.

That\'s my stance.  The lesser of two evils.

I think it was Jenneane Gorofolo who said watching Bush speak is like a parent wishing that their child finishes the sentence correctly in a school play.

I hope Bush wins but he definitely doesn\'t have the gift of public speaking.  That video loooks a tad old, I wonder if how he\'ll do in the debates.

Most the people who think it is cool to hate bush arn\'t old enough to vote, so stop worrying.

Anyways, I doubt kerry will win. To win, he\'d have to make major headlines during the debates.

[Titan]

Originally posted by THX
I think it was Jenneane Gorofolo who said watching Bush speak is like a parent wishing that their child finishes the sentence correctly in a school play.

I hope Bush wins but he definitely doesn\'t have the gift of public speaking.  That video loooks a tad old, I wonder if how he\'ll do in the debates.

But just because his public speaking sucks, doesn\'t mean he\'s a bad president. I think he\'s a good president. He makes a decision and sticks to it. That\'s what I look for in a leader, someone who sticks to their guns. Plus he has more policies and beliefs that I believe in too. Kerry can\'t make up his mind about anything. Like Bush said, "he can have a 90 minute debate with himself".