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Offline Cyrus
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« on: October 04, 2004, 08:15:57 AM »
I know Im stuck right now on my new set but I was wondering is it normal to have the lines on the top and bottom when watching a widescreen on a widscreen tv??

I was kind of expecting for the movie to fit perfectly in my screen. and was wondering if it was cause I was a dork or something.

I did notice Nemo and Scooby Doo2 fit the screen perfect but all of my movies have lines at the top and bottom.
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2004, 09:28:05 AM »
if it\'s a widescreen 16:9 ratio movie then I would think you wouldn\'t see the letterboxing.  Kinda defeats the purpose of a widescreen set eh?

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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2004, 09:47:26 AM »
First make sure your DVD player is configured to output to a widescreen television.  This is usually a setting in the DVD player\'s menu.

Different motion pictures are filmed in different aspect ratios.  Many Hollywood movies are filmed in 1.85:1, which almost fills the whole screen on a 16:9 television.  However, another common aspect ratio is 2.35:1, which does not fill the entire screen of a 16:9 television.  Therefore, you will definitely have black bars on the screen when watching a 2.35:1 film.  It\'s normal.
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2004, 10:16:34 AM »
Cored\'s right on.
http://www.widescreen.org/widescreen_tv_qa.shtml

1.85:1 movie:


2.35:1 movie:


You\'ll find that more "epic" movies like Gladiator or Lawrence of Arabia will be in the wider format.  Just depends on whatever the director chooses.

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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2004, 11:30:24 AM »
Well I think it sucks..... I bought the wide screen one and still have the bars so I want 1:85:1 then it looks like..
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2004, 11:56:41 AM »
:laughing:  Basic average Joe thought process: black bars = teh g3y/.  It\'s all about the movie, not what fills your TV screen.  When\'s the last time you complained about it in the theater? :)

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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2004, 12:10:48 PM »
personally I WOULDN\'T MIND BLACK BARS ON MY TV BUT MY TV IS SUBSCEPTIBLE TO BURNS IN...

and i get real paranoid about it when watch movie with black bars...

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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2004, 12:14:41 PM »
British widescreen tv\'s usually have about 3 or 4 different screen formats to cater for all sizes. Auto or zoom usually stretches the picture to fit perfectly.

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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2004, 12:53:33 PM »
Zoom just changes the quality of the video.  It should be banned on all sets.

If you are worried about burn in, then you really shouldn\'t buy a set that burns in.

Plus unless you watch a heck of a lot of 2.35:1 material, you won\'t have anything to worry about.


And THX is right.  No one seems to complain at the theater when the open and close the currents according to screen ratio.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2004, 01:03:18 PM »
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Originally posted by videoholic

And THX is right.  No one seems to complain at the theater when the open and close the currents according to screen ratio.


no one complain in theater because its give the right aspect ratio on the screen.

I enjoy watching video in their aspect ratio and proper resolution too on my hdtv.  But because i get so paranoid of black borders that i "zoom" in 2:35:1 movies at time and strecth 4:3 aspect ratio video to fill in my 16 x 9 hdtv.

I heard a lot about how CRTS have improve greatly and burns in is a very small things for directview if contrast/picture is set properly and set calibrated properly.

Unless you leave it on 24 hours a day and 7 days a week for a long time...

unless the CRT is RPTV which uses 3 CRTS and 3 electron guns which make it more subseptible to burns in than directview...

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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2004, 01:19:58 PM »
I usually "zoom" 4:3 programs to fill the whole screen.  The images look a little squashed, but your brain adjusts to it.

However, I DO NOT zoom 2.35:1 programs to eliminate the black bars.  If you do that, you\'re throwing away image information on the left and right sides of the screen.  What\'s the point of using a widescreen TV, if you\'re going to willingly hide part of the frame?  Seems like a stupid precaution to avoid burn-in.  

I have a rear projection Toshiba 65H80 which is the old technology that IS suseptible to burn-in.  I\'ve been running it for several years now, and I no burn-in whatsoever.  You need to leave your set turned on 24x7 on a harmful image to induce burn in.  I don\'t think any of us do that.
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2004, 01:20:21 PM »
The screens in the theater are huge monstosities, unsure what the standard AR they use.  They do however, use the same screen to display Toy Story (which is 1.77:1) and Gladiator (2.35:1).  They just use motorized curtains or masking to block out the light spill.  If you watch at the beginning of the feature you can see them move, depending on the theater.

No one complains because the display is so frickin huge.  Was sorta leading into the projector vs. direct view debate again. ;)  Black bars don\'t become an issue at 80"+.

Zoom can be a bish depending on the scaler.  I watched Samurai X last night which was unforutnately letterboxed (16:9 stuck in a 4:3 frame) so I used my projector to scale it.  Luckily it has an onboard Faroudja DCDi processor so it still looked pretty good.
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2004, 01:37:06 PM »
I was just worried about burn in more than anything also.. Vid its your fault I prolly wouldnt have even thought about it if it wasnt for you.
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2004, 01:49:40 PM »
Anamorphic widescreen is what you seek, Cyrus.. and it\'s a feature unavailable on many/most DVD\'s.

Scooby Doo 2 and Finding Nemo both have it, that\'s why they fill your wide-screen monitor. What is anamorphic widescreen?

Basically all it means is that when you pop the DVD image onto a normal TV, it\'s be letterboxed to fit the format. On a widescreen TV, depending on the ratio, it\'ll fit perfectly into the space provided with little to no letterboxing and no loss of quality.
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2004, 01:51:04 PM »
Well, it exists.  IF you didn\'t think about it, you\'d probably have issues with it.

To be honest you won\'t have burn in problems with the occasional video.  It\'s the showrooms where they put movies and stuff on for long periods of time.

Take it back and get an LCD or a DLP.  :)
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