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Offline Deadly Hamster
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« on: October 08, 2004, 06:52:57 PM »
Thoughts?

I thought Kerry owned Bush. Everyones saying oh "Bush did betterrr" but BETTER isn\'t always good enough.

Kerry won on Health Care, Supreme Court, the Patriot Act. Bush tied him on taxes, and Bush probley beat him on the war just because of the idea everyone has drilled into their heads about Bush.


Id say
Kerry gets an A
Bush Gets a B-

Im putting my money on Kerry to take this election. He will dominate Bush on domestic policies, and he has the momentum rolling.
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2004, 06:57:15 PM »
I strongly disagree - it is a draw.

Nothing new at all.  Frankly, I don\'t think I will be tuning into the 3rd one.  A few factual errors by both candidates.  Bush dropped the ball on a few questions and Kerry keeps stating he has a "better plan" on just about everything.  The question is - what are these plans?  Just saying you have a better plan does not a plan make.

Kerry will raise your taxes - that is one clear message I got out of that.  He did not IMO give a clear definitive answer to the gentleman\'s question regarding raising taxes for people who earned under $200,000.

Lastly - this election is not about domestic policy.  It all about Iraq and the War on Terror.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2004, 07:01:21 PM »
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Kerry will raise your taxes


.... Are you serious? what about that part when he DIRECTLY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION? Remember? right.

For me (given, I can\'t vote) This is about domestic policy. And Kerry is a little sissy bitch. He is trying to act like a moderate, none of these two will uphold the constitution.  But Kerry is slightly better about the Patriot Act and gay rights.

Im not sure how everyone else will respond to this debate, but I was much more impressed with Kerry this time. It is clear that he was more emotional, and I thought he explained his reasons  very well. Concerning his abortion votes anyway. Although Bush didn\'t even acknowledge his explenations.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2004, 07:06:50 PM »
I can\'t comprehend how Kerry is going to pay for all of these things that he says he has a plan for without raising taxes.  It just makes no sense.  Hitting Bush with job loss numbers and recession problems is really unfair.  He had a very tough time in his term and it sure seems like things are heck of a lot better now than they were 3 years ago.  At least domestically.
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2004, 07:07:21 PM »
i was interested on the part about

stem cells...

I am for stem cells research so they can cure people...
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2004, 07:14:39 PM »
Bush was out of control in part of it and looked unprofessional. Kerry won it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2004, 07:37:03 PM »
I wasn\'t overly impressed with either of them though Bush was much better prepared this go around.  Right now I\'m saying it\'s a draw and like Gigashadow I\'m not sure if I\'ll bother tuning in next week.
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2004, 07:41:03 PM »
I agree Ginko - if you don\'t know who you are voting for now - you aren\'t voting IMO.  I doubt either candidate will come up with any "new" material by the next debate and am I the only one here who thinks these debates are about 30 minutes too long?  

Lastly, I don\'t really care who wins the debate - the so called experts can give their in depth analysis all they want - the winner of the debates will be declared on November 2... well maybe shortly there after if this election is as close the polls suggest.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2004, 08:53:28 PM »
Kerry won it. Bush\'s ego seemed to have popped when he demanded the right to answer and interrupted the moderator.


Bush didn\'t answer the question about how they are going to cut the deficit.

The "internets" polls show that Kerry won.
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2004, 10:53:04 PM »
Why would you point out how the internet polls went when we obviously don\'t care?
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2004, 04:05:34 AM »
Internet polls are about as credible as the homeless crack addict down the street.

No offense to either party.,
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2004, 04:36:57 AM »
bush definitely did better this this time around..tho i still felt kerry got the overall edge...he explains his answers in great detail and before i really didn\'t know where kerry stood on anything..i liked how he acknowledge that he wasn\'t a flip flop and how he explained why he voted against certain policies...

bush seemed more relaxed this time around tho there were a couple of instances where i thought he was a wee bit out of control...there was one funny stint in there were kerry accused bush of having a wood company..and bush was like "what? that\'s news to me" he then turned to the moderator and said "want some wood"?  :laughing:...

both candidates have very similiar views... i don\'t think kerry is as weak as i once thought of him to be but overall i still give the edge to bush as far as the presidency is concerned...and only because i feel he still is the stronger leader and needs to clean up iraq....
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2004, 05:50:13 AM »
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Kerry won it. Bush\'s ego seemed to have popped when he demanded the right to answer and interrupted the moderator.


Bush didn\'t answer the question about how they are going to cut the deficit.

The "internets" polls show that Kerry won.



Actually it was Kerry who didn\'t answer it.  He jumped ship onto another entirely different topic and barely came back.

As far as Busch jumping on the moderator.  I liked it.  It showed that the guy has authority and he does what he needs to do.  

I just think Kerry lives in lala land and none of what he speaks of is possible.

You guys realize that his wife paid less than 15% in taxes last year?  Do you realize that almost all of her production is done out of the country?  What a great way to lead by example.
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2004, 06:02:10 AM »
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bush definitely did better this this time around..tho i still felt kerry got the overall edge...he explains his answers in great detail and before i really didn\'t know where kerry stood on anything..i liked how he acknowledge that he wasn\'t a flip flop and how he explained why he voted against certain policies...

bush seemed more relaxed this time around tho there were a couple of instances where i thought he was a wee bit out of control...there was one funny stint in there were kerry accused bush of having a wood company..and bush was like "what? that\'s news to me" he then turned to the moderator and said "want some wood"?  :laughing:...

both candidates have very similiar views... i don\'t think kerry is as weak as i once thought of him to be but overall i still give the edge to bush as far as the presidency is concerned...and only because i feel he still is the stronger leader and needs to clean up iraq....

lol i didnt catch the wood part. As a matter of fact i slept on the whole thing. I was pretty pissed off that i had missed it. BTW, i thought you said kerry had the edge first?

STOP FLIP FLOPPING!

damn.

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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2004, 06:43:56 AM »
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You guys realize that his wife paid less than 15% in taxes last year?  Do you realize that almost all of her production is done out of the country?  What a great way to lead by example.


I think Bush should have hammered this home.  Theresa won\'t release her tax records - yet the Bush\'s do.  What is she hiding?
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