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Jon Stewart on Crossfire
« on: October 15, 2004, 06:23:13 PM »
DId any of you see it?  Dang I love Jon Stewart.  That guy is so freaking good.  It just sucks that he is so democratic.  BUT, he\'s a bright democrat.  That, I have respect for.

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Jon Stewart Bitchslaps CNN\'s \'Crossfire\' Show
10.15.2004 6:43 PM EDT

In what could well be the strangest and most refreshing media moment of the election season, "The Daily Show" host Jon Stewart turned up on a live broadcast of CNN\'s "Crossfire" Friday and accused the mainstream media — and his hosts in particular — of being soft and failing to do their duty as journalists to keep politicians and the political process honest.

Reaching well outside his usual youthful "Daily Show" demo, Stewart took to "Crossfire" to promote his new book, "America (The Book): A Citizen\'s Guide to Democracy Inaction" (see "Jon Stewart Writes A History Textbook That — At Last! — Features Nudity"), but instead of pushing the tome, Stewart used his time to verbally slap the network and the media for being "dishonest" and "doing a disservice" to the American public. After co-host Tucker Carlson suggested that Stewart went easy on Senator John Kerry when the candidate was a guest on "The Daily Show," Stewart unloaded on "Crossfire," calling hosts Carlson and Paul Begala "partisan hacks" and chiding them for not raising the level of discourse on their show beyond sloganeering.

"What you do is not honest. What you do is partisan hackery," Stewart said. "You have a responsibility to the public discourse, and you fail miserably.

"I watch your show every day, and it kills me. It\'s so painful to watch," Stewart added as it became apparent that the comedian was not joking. He went on to hammer the network, and the media in general, for its coverage of the presidential debates. Stewart said it was a disservice to viewers to immediately seek reaction from campaign insiders and presidential cheerleaders following the debates, noting that the debates\' famed "Spin Alley" should be called "Deception Lane."

"The thing is, we need your help," Stewart said. "Right now, you\'re helping the politicians and the corporations and we\'re left out there to mow our lawns."

While the audience seemed to be behind Stewart, Begala and Carlson were both taken aback. The hosts tried to feed Stewart set-up lines hoping to draw him into a more light-hearted shtick, but Stewart stayed on point and hammered away at the show, the hosts, and the state of political journalism. Carlson grew increasingly frustrated, at first noting that the segment wasn\'t "funny," and later verbally sparring with the comedian.

"You\'re not very much fun," Carlson said. "Do you like lecture people like this, or do you come over to their house and sit and lecture them; they\'re not doing the right thing, that they\'re missing their opportunities, evading their responsibilities?"

"If I think they are," Stewart retorted.

The conversation reached its most heated moment when Carlson said to Stewart, "I do think you\'re more fun on your show," to which Stewart replied, "You\'re as big a dick on your show as you are on any show."

"That went great," Stewart could be heard sarcastically saying as the show went off the air (a transcript of the show is available on CNN.com).

In an era when the media is increasingly fragmented and viewers can surround themselves with programming that falls right in line with their own views, be they on the right or the left, Stewart\'s blast seemed especially on point. It seems fitting that the tirade came on a day when much of the media attention focused on the presidential race was directed at the mention of Vice President Dick Cheney\'s daughter during the last presidential debate, as opposed to the issues addressed at that debate.

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Jon Stewart on Crossfire
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2004, 06:39:23 PM »
Can you find a link to the transcript? I can\'t find it on the site...
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2004, 07:44:09 PM »
i\'ll trust john stewart over basically any news guy any day
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2004, 09:54:34 PM »
He\'s so ****ing smart and he hits you with the irony he finds on the Daily Show. I like him a lot. Rolling Stone did a great interview with him this month, check it out. The interview with Stone and Parker about Team America: World Police (in the same issue) is funny, too.

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Jon Stewart on Crossfire
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2004, 12:10:26 AM »
yea this cat is pretty funny..i can never catch his show tho...
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2004, 03:35:10 AM »
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yea this cat is pretty funny..i can never catch his show tho...


Tivo is your friend.

Plus it\'s on three times a day.  I think it\'s on at 7pm EST as well.



Here is the transcript


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/15/cf.01.html
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Jon Stewart on Crossfire
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2004, 03:45:56 AM »
Stewart is awesome:



CARLSON: Wait, Jon, let me tell you something valuable that I think we do that I\'d like to see you...

STEWART: Something valuable?

CARLSON: Yes.

STEWART: I would like to hear it.

CARLSON: And I\'ll tell you.

When politicians come on...

STEWART: Yes.

CARLSON: It\'s nice to get them to try and answer the question. And in order to do that, we try and ask them pointed questions. I want to contrast our questions with some questions you asked John Kerry recently.

CARLSON: ... up on the screen.

STEWART: If you want to compare your show to a comedy show, you\'re more than welcome to.

CARLSON: No, no, no, here\'s the point.

STEWART: If that\'s your goal.

CARLSON: It\'s not.

STEWART: I wouldn\'t aim for us. I\'d aim for "Seinfeld." That\'s a very good show.
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2004, 03:49:15 AM »
CARLSON: Jon, Jon, Jon, I\'m sorry. I think you\'re a good comedian. I think your lectures are boring.

STEWART: Yes.

CARLSON: Let me ask you a question on the news.

STEWART: Now, this is theater. It\'s obvious. How old are you?

(CROSSTALK)

CARLSON: Thirty-five. STEWART: And you wear a bow tie.

(LAUGHTER)

(APPLAUSE)

CARLSON: Yes, I do. I do.

STEWART: So this is...

CARLSON: I know. I know. I know. You\'re a...

(CROSSTALK)

STEWART: So this is theater.

CARLSON: Now, let me just...

(CROSSTALK)

CARLSON: Now, come on.

STEWART: Now, listen, I\'m not suggesting that you\'re not a smart guy, because those are not easy to tie.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2004, 03:50:28 AM »
STEWART: But the thing is that this -- you\'re doing theater, when you should be doing debate, which would be great.

BEGALA: We do, do...

(CROSSTALK)

STEWART: It\'s not honest. What you do is not honest. What you do is partisan hackery. And I will tell you why I know it.

CARLSON: You had John Kerry on your show and you sniff his throne and you\'re accusing us of partisan hackery?

STEWART: Absolutely.

CARLSON: You\'ve got to be kidding me. He comes on and you...

(CROSSTALK)

STEWART: You\'re on CNN. The show that leads into me is puppets making crank phone calls.

(LAUGHTER)

STEWART: What is wrong with you?

(APPLAUSE) CARLSON: Well, I\'m just saying, there\'s no reason for you -- when you have this marvelous opportunity not to be the guy\'s butt boy, to go ahead and be his butt boy. Come on. It\'s embarrassing.

STEWART: I was absolutely his butt boy. I was so far -- you would not believe what he ate two weeks ago.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2004, 03:51:50 AM »
STEWART: You know, the interesting thing I have is, you have a responsibility to the public discourse, and you fail miserably.

CARLSON: You need to get a job at a journalism school, I think.

STEWART: You need to go to one.

The thing that I want to say is, when you have people on for just knee-jerk, reactionary talk...

CARLSON: Wait. I thought you were going to be funny. Come on. Be funny.

STEWART: No. No. I\'m not going to be your monkey.

(LAUGHTER)

BEGALA: Go ahead. Go ahead.

STEWART: I watch your show every day. And it kills me.

CARLSON: I can tell you love it.

STEWART: It\'s so -- oh, it\'s so painful to watch.

(LAUGHTER)

STEWART: You know, because we need what you do. This is such a great opportunity you have here to actually get politicians off of their marketing and strategy.

CARLSON: Is this really Jon Stewart? What is this, anyway?

STEWART: Yes, it\'s someone who watches your show and cannot take it anymore.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2004, 04:38:04 AM »
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2004, 04:53:49 AM »
i just read some of it and I was like confuse...

let me try to download the video\'s clip and see what happen...

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2004, 07:08:53 AM »
That was pretty funny. Finally, a democrat with a brain :p
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2004, 07:15:15 PM »
Its great to see a smart comedian who knows about new and politics abuslutley own someone who co-hosts a show on CNN.  Jon Stewarts one of my favorite comedians. He completely made a fool of the one guy with a bow tie on his own show.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2004, 07:25:50 PM »
It was pretty funny, but the most amusing thing is Jon Stewart coming across as the populist savior who knows what is wrong with politics.  His only valid point was the coverage of spin alley.  Other than that...  pure Hollywood rhetoric.  The Republicans have theirs, the Democrats have their own - and Hollywood - the haven of Socialism and Communism in the US has their own as well.  Burn Hollywood Burn. ;)

I have no love of CNN and Carlson is an idiot, but Stewart should stick to the comedy - we have enough entertainers that think they are political geniuses.
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