Jon Stewart on Crossfire

So your saying that since he\'s a comedian he has no political knowledge? Why do you think the people couldn\'t accually defend themselves? All Carlson did was try to attack Jon Stewart instead of defending his own show. Him trying to basically call the daily show a mockery and trying to tell Jon Stewart he shouldn\'t be talking about "responsibility and honesty" was a joke. The Daily Show is meant to be funny, and it\'s very good at doing so. Jon Stewart pointed out the things Crossfire was doing that was abd, while Carlson basically complimented him about his show.

I simply would have asked Stewart if he had this show how would it be any different, and what questions would he ask John Kerry.

He just came off as another know-it-all Hollywood jerk to me.

Jon Stewart\'s opinions is valid, actually a lot more valid then your opinion Giga.

Sort of like my opinions are more valid than yours here eh DH?  Don\'t you have an Al Qaida meeting to go to oh king of stupid statements?  Exactly what does the validity of Jon Stewarts opinions have to do with the validity of my opinions?  Try thinking before you type... please.  

Anyway, I never said I agreed with Carlson.  I am just stating that Stewart is a Hollywood Elitist and a pseudo intellectual - there is nothing I hate more.  He could have handled his points in a much better manner IMO.  THX is right - he came across as an ass.

Interesting that a Hollywood "Jerk" or "Elitist" could come from New York, where he runs The Daily Show and lives, basically.

But, you know, as long as he\'s a Hollywood Elitist.

See Yuz.

Giga, stop talking out of your ass.

but Stewart should stick to the comedy - we have enough entertainers that think they are political geniuses.

You talk politics to us here don\'t you?
Stewart has talked to John Kerry and other political figures. He is actually somewhat involved in politics.

You on the other hand are on a political forum. I don\'t see how you can criticize his opinion ("think they are political geniuses") When you act in a much more elitest manner, and have A HELL OF A LOT LESS EXPERIENCE THEN JOHN STEWART.

It is just obviously hypocritical.

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wow.

Well written there I say.^^^

Originally posted by ROL Jamas
Interesting that a Hollywood "Jerk" or "Elitist" could come from New York, where he runs The Daily Show and lives, basically.

But, you know, as long as he\'s a Hollywood Elitist.

It\'s the same bs, hollywoood means "in the entertainment industry."  The city itself is nothing special, ever driven through it?

ps- check out O\'Reilly on the Daily Show.  Pretty good interview:

http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/thedailyshowwithjonstewart/index.jhtml

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too bad that interview was before the scandal came out that o\'reilly has...meh pretty good interview nontheless..

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Sort of like my opinions are more valid than yours here eh DH? Don\'t you have an Al Qaida meeting to go to oh king of stupid statements? Exactly what does the validity of Jon Stewarts opinions have to do with the validity of my opinions? Try thinking before you type... please.

Let me get this straight, you had Mystiq banned from the forum for awhile because he said you was part of the KKK, but you, a moderator turn around an accused a member of being part of Al Qaida? Where in the hell do you get off with this?

DH is right - you complain that Jon Stewart act like he knows everything and you turn around and do it.. He has a political show, like a hundred others  - so what\'s the problem? He has his fans, like Rush has his... Every side has their little saviors and Jon happens to be the Democrat\'s. And as for you complaining about him being an elitlist and opinion not being valid - what are you and what is your opinion?

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I think Giga may be in the minority on this one.  I\'m a republican, but I have respect for Jon Stewart. The guy is very very bright.  I\'ve seen every episode of his show since the day he came on board and I saw a couple years before that with Craig Kilborn.

THe dude is good.  He\'s a comedian that you can respect because he knows his shit.

It\'s just too bad he\'s on the dark side.  

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Let me get this straight, you had Mystiq banned from the forum for awhile because he said you was part of the KKK, but you, a moderator turn around an accused a member of being part of Al Qaida? Where in the hell do you get off with this?

DH is right - you complain that Jon Stewart act like he knows everything and you turn around and do it.. He has a political show, like a hundred others  - so what\'s the problem? He has his fans, like Rush has his... Every side has their little saviors and Jon happens to be the Democrat\'s. And as for you complaining about him being an elitlist and opinion not being valid - what are you and what is your opinion?

Where the hell do you get off only posting personal attacks on me LIC?  Yet again you only post in here to attack me.  This is part of your personal crusade and it is not hard that come to this conclusion - check your PM\'s.  You have consistantly attacked me for having an opinion.    

I have an opinion and I am entitled to it.  Stewart came across as an ass on CNN.  He wants to be taken seriously, yet he says "look at what channel I am on" and "the show the airs before his is about talking puppets".  He can\'t have it both ways.  The hosts of Crossfire tried to take him seriously and he deflected it with that excuse.  I am not alone in that opinion, but some seem to be not able to take it.  You on the other hand can\'t take any of my opinions - DH plainly said he understood where KRS One was coming from when he cheered when the planes flew into the WTC without expounding on it further.  I don\'t have to reach too far to make that connection.  

To compare me with Jon Stewart shows that both you are DH are living in fantasy land.  I am not a national figure am I?  Do I have my own show?  I dont\' go on talk shows spouting my opinions do I?  That is what this topic is about, but once again you have turned it into a topic about my views.  Good job thread hijacker.  Oh and my opinion of his antics on CNN have nothing do with what party he chooses.  If he was a Republican I would have thought the same way.

I understand where he was coming from, yes. I understand what he was saying.

Unlike you, Giga, I live in New York. I quite frequently visit NYC. I understand how large the anti-police sentiment is there, especially among the poor and minorities.  I understand how some of these people could take there resentment for authority and connect it to 9/11.

There is a difference between understanding and agreeing. I understand why he has that opinion. That doesn\'t mean I think his opinion is "Right".

But if you want to be a douche and call me a terrorist becuase I "understand" something, then go ahead.

Anyways, to try and bring this thrad back on topic somehow....

To compare me with Jon Stewart shows that both you are DH are living in fantasy land. I am not a national figure am I? Do I have my own show? I dont\' go on talk shows spouting my opinions do I? That is what this topic is about, but once again you have turned it into a topic about my views. Good job thread hijacker.

I was replying to YOUR post. That is why I mentioned you. And why the hell shouldn\'t I compare you with someone who you just criticized?

Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
I understand where he was coming from, yes. I understand what he was saying.

Unlike you, Giga, I live in New York. I quite frequently visit NYC. I understand how large the anti-police sentiment is there, especially among the poor and minorities.  I understand how some of these people could take there resentment for authority and connect it to 9/11.

There is a difference between understanding and agreeing. I understand why he has that opinion. That doesn\'t mean I think his opinion is "Right".

But if you want to be a douche and call me a terrorist becuase I "understand" something, then go ahead.

Anyways, to try and bring this thrad back on topic somehow....




I was replying to YOUR post. That is why I mentioned you. And why the hell shouldn\'t I compare you with someone who you just criticized?

To not think it is outrageous is just cold.  I am skeptical as to if you really do know any poor minorities who spout this nonsense if you are a suburban white boy, but I may be wrong.

As for your weak comparison of Jon Stewart and myself.  We here at PSX2Central are not even remotely in the same league as entertainers.  I am flattered that you would compare me to Jon Stewart - maybe I should call up Comedy Central and ask them for a job.

So for you to compare me to a talk show host is idiotic.  It would be like movie critics having their acting skills compared to the actors they are critiquing would it not?  Jon Stewart came on CNN and I am merely commenting on what I thought of his appearence.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Other than that...  pure Hollywood rhetoric.  The Republicans have theirs, the Democrats have their own - and Hollywood - the haven of Socialism and Communism in the US has their own as well.  Burn Hollywood Burn.

Back to a point from earlier in this thread...

I find it hilarious when republicans complain about Hollywood, as if you don\'t suck up their product just like everyone else on the planet.  If we had a civil war, and you conservatives got your own country, you\'d be watching reruns of "Touched by an Angel" and "Gomer Pyle: USMC."  Why is it so hard to find a funny conservative?  All the good entertainment comes from progressives and liberals because we\'re not afraid to make fun of ourselves.  Self-depreciation is a cornerstone of mental health, but apparently conservatives are incapable of it.  I swear, the earth would crack open and godzilla would emerge singing the national anthem the day a hardcore conservative admitted he was wrong about something.  But I digress...

It\'s also fun the way you throw around labels like "socialism" and "communism" to dismiss ideas.  You do realize this is 2004, not 1952, right?  Those words don\'t inspire the kind of instant fear they used to.  By the way, you don\'t find me throwing around "fascism" and "totalitarianism" when referring to conservative ideas, do you?  That\'s because I don\'t think in labels, and I would encourage you to do the same.