September NPD

Originally posted by Bozco
Have you played it yet?  Oh.......you haven\'t.  

YOU\'RE A DUMBASS, PLEASE STOP POSTING

It a First Person Shooter thats Clocked at 30 Frames Per Second...

= Piss poor.

Sorry but with FPS\'ers the frame rate is the life blood of the game, as it affects your aimming and responce to incoming fire.

Reason why FABLE which WAS clocked at around 30 FPS wasn\'t even a problem because it ran for the most part in 3rd person persective.

Originally posted by mm
i got em all,  too

xbox is currently being punished untill halo 2 comes out.  then i will stick it in the console graveyard once i beat it.

Getting rid of mine in the next few weeks anyway as i have comleted the reason  got my X box for (fable).

The PS2 has been in short supply for a while now, Sony is trying to clear out the old model from the stores.

Enter PSTwo, next month will be more interesting.

[GmanJoe]

Originally posted by Watchdog
It was you, a long time ago that said xbox would never outsell PS2--this is at least the fourth time it has happened this year.  Even you have to admit xbox is winning some mindshare.

Xbox still hasn\'t out sold the PS2.

Hmmm let me see... could it be bacuse of the HYPE from LARGELY overrated HALO2 ?

Either way it is Pathetic that it took THIS long to hit a month where they just for once stopped the gap from growing..

Remember the PS2 has been outselling DA XBOUX since day one.

And After about 4 years that’s ONE HELL of a GAP…. (Gap more like Grand canyon)

Guess you didn\'t read the whole post...Xbox has outsold PS2 three times this year and before that it had been getting closer and closer to the same number of units sold per month as PS2.  Let me remind you it hasn\'t even been three years yet, next month on the 15th will mark three years, but in that short amount of time Xbox has managed to go from absolutely nothing to being the number two console AND sometimes beating out number one on the monthly chart.  

Also...you think it\'s pathetic that Xbox has managed to catch up with the mighty Sony in terms of monthly sales?  So what do you think about Nintendo?

It a First Person Shooter thats Clocked at 30 Frames Per Second...

= Piss poor.

Sorry but with FPS\'ers the frame rate is the life blood of the game, as it affects your aimming and responce to incoming fire.

Reason why FABLE which WAS clocked at around 30 FPS wasn\'t even a problem because it ran for the most part in 3rd person persective.

anyway...
Halo=5.5+ million sold
Halo 2=1.5+ million pre-sold

I wouldn\'t call that piss poor...

Originally posted by ooseven
It a First Person Shooter thats Clocked at 30 Frames Per Second...

= Piss poor.

Sorry but with FPS\'ers the frame rate is the life blood of the game, as it affects your aimming and responce to incoming fire.

How about you play the game then come back to us.  Until then stop making an idiot of yourself commenting on things you don\'t have the first clue on.  Yea, you know what frame rate it has at certain times, but you still haven\'t played the game.  Simple as that.

Also, if you\'re getting rid of your xbox then we\'ll gladly lose your presence here I assume.  You\'re slowly becoming mm.

Originally posted by Bozco
How about you play the game then come back to us.  Until then stop making an idiot of yourself commenting on things you don\'t have the first clue on.  Yea, you know what frame rate it has at certain times, but you still haven\'t played the game.  Simple as that.

Also, if you\'re getting rid of your xbox then we\'ll gladly lose your presence here I assume.  You\'re slowly becoming mm.

What are you talking about, ooseven has always been like that.  Besides, his agument doesn\'t hold much weight.  Everyone is working under the 30 fps "handicap"  so it won\'t effect your ability to evade incoming fire nor will it hamper aiming since you are aiming at people running at 30 fps.

It\'s a ridiculous point of view anyway--none of us are bloody surgeons with FPSs nor are we professionals who may notice the subtle difference--anyone who suggests that there is a marked difference in your ability to play is kidding themselves.  

One can see the difference, and there may be a valid argument to be made there, but claiming that it hampers your aiming and dodging is absolutely ridiculous.

so your saying there\'s no difference between 60 fps and 30 fps?

why do you think doom 3 was frame rate throttled...

frame rate and general game speed makes the world of difference in aiming/movment

Xbx $39,379,728 265,067
Ps2 $38,046,609 253,295

Wow, that is the hugest gap ive seen in my life...

Xbox may be selling somewhat better now but after how long and by how much? Not a lot at all. You figure everybody and their mother has a ps2 so its only expected that the rate would slow down after its 4th or so year if not more. Its a sad statement to say that this slight gap says anything about how well the xbox is doing or how "poorly" the ps2 is doing.

There really is no argument.

And about FPS\'s: The frame rate is easily noticed. To say that the difference is tiny is pretty stupid. Perhaps some dont have the perception that others do but it makes a decent difference. Maybe not the world but it is undeniably different. Personally, i didnt like Halo too much but id be lying if i said that Halo 2 didnt catch my interest. If it was locked at 60FPS even I might have to go and buy an Xbox....

Sadly this isnt true. Maybe at another price drop.

*shrugs*

muahhaha Final Fantasy the Spirits Within is capped @ 24fps, whores.  

[Living-In-Clip]

(1) Could it be the Xbox outsold the PS2 due to the fact almost everyone has a PS2 by now? At some point, you get to a point where you can\'t sell that many more units and I think the PS2 is approaching that.  Not to mention Halo 2 is a system seller..

(2)

It a First Person Shooter thats Clocked at 30 Frames Per Second...

= Piss poor.

Dumbest ...thing.. ever.

I dislike Halo, but it is not due to it being locked at 30FPS. The frame rate alone should not break or make a game, unless the game has massive frame rate problems where the engine is constantly dipping. Halo does not suffer from that problem, instead it is locked ...  And you compare it to Fable, while I enjoy Fable, I think that was a "piss poor" comparison, because not only is Fable at 30FPS, it actually dipps below 30FPS quite often.

(3)

The PS2 has been in short supply for a while now, Sony is trying to clear out the old model from the stores.

Enter PSTwo, next month will be more interesting.
 

 

The so called PSTwo is not going to make a massive difference. The real of appeal of that is people who are either replacing a dead unit or collectors who think they need it all.

Originally posted by mm
so your saying there\'s no difference between 60 fps and 30 fps?

why do you think doom 3 was frame rate throttled...

frame rate and general game speed makes the world of difference in aiming/movment

Play the new one then talk to me.  The tiny delay you saw in Halo 1 has almost completely been taken out.  You\'re just lying to yourself till you actually believe the shit that comes out.

tiny?

come on bro, your really grasping at straws now

lol, tiny
:laugging:

Originally posted by Ginko

I also find it interesting that some of the multi-platform games have sold better on Xbox than PS2, specifically Burnout and Starwars.

have you considered the fact that ps2 might have way more good games?

[Bobs_Hardware]

haha, politiepet..   That\'s flame bait if I ever saw it.

My first time through Halo I honestly never saw any framerate drops. Even during the final run. I remember making comments to my friend (with whom I was playing co-op) that it\'s probably the best frame-rate I\'ve seen in a console FPS, due to it being so smooth. As even TimeSplitters had frame-drops.

However, I think I did get lucky, as the next few times through the game the shit hit the fan and there was chop all over the place.

Anyways, if the framerate is as smooth as my first time through the original, I\'ll be more than happy. Even if it\'s not at my precious 60fps.

I\'m just looking forward to a good co-op FPS again. We\'ve played TimeSplitters 2 to death. And Halo 2 should be somewhat more cohesive in it\'s structure I think.

Originally posted by mm
tiny?

come on bro, your really grasping at straws now

lol, tiny
:laugging:

Sorry, the jokes on you.

You\'re trying to act as if you shot and your gun fired 2 seconds later, and the bullet reached another 2 seconds after that.  Either way it\'s much more spot on now.

:laugging: