Why Americans Hate Democrats—A Dialogue

Originally posted by THX
80-some-odd% of the world believes in a higher power or deity.  Can\'t let the minority speak for all of us. :O

So true - the younger generation isn\'t against the idea of religion any more so than they were in my youth.  To say that the there will be a huge change in 20 years is a stretch.  This is the major flaw in the DNC\'s platform - they ignore the religious right and in doing so they and those that support them alienate themselves to the majority of the country.

They ignore the religious right because the religious right believe that religious morals should be put into law.

Nothing wrong with alienating yourself from the majority of the country if you think they are very very wrong. If everyone changed their views to fit the majority, there would never be any progression.

Originally posted by Bjorn
Luckily all this God bs is really toned down here and all the messed up views and "MORALS" it carries with it.  

Way to be open to people :rolleyes:

Originally posted by THX
80-some-odd% of the world believes in a higher power or deity.  Can\'t let the minority speak for all of us. :O

I guess most people thought the earth was in the center of the universe, and that the sun went around it. It took the church 350 years to acknowledge Galileo\'s writings.

Most people thought the world was flat.

With time, new facts arise which makes people change.

Originally posted by Bozco
Way to be open to people :rolleyes:

I\'m open to people, not to religion.

Originally posted by Bjorn
I\'m open to people, not to religion.

Somehow I bet that transfers to people.

When I\'m around people that I know are religious and church going I do not bring up my views. I treat them as any other human being, with respect.  I let them believe what they want, I\'m not gonna force my views upon them. However if they do say something stupid, like discriminating groups of people because it says this and that in the bible I will not stay quiet.

Yea, like it\'s cool to have faith in anything, but don\'t try to make it law and push your beliefs on everyone else.

That\'s what Republicans do. We have that thing called separation of church and state for a reason. We just apparently decided to forget about it.....

*gives up*

-Dan

Originally posted by Eiksirf
Yea, like it\'s cool to have faith in anything, but don\'t try to make it law and push your beliefs on everyone else.

That\'s what Republicans do.

What church are you going to Eik?  You know since the Republicans forced relgion on you and all. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Bjorn
I guess most people thought the earth was in the center of the universe, and that the sun went around it. It took the church 350 years to acknowledge Galileo\'s writings.

Most people thought the world was flat.

Hehe don\'t see why this has anything to do with religion but I can say with pride my church never thought the world was flat or that everything revolves around the earth.

With time, new facts arise which makes people change.

You can keep saying that all you want but I doubt that figure I brought up will change in the next several generations.  Religion is here to stay if you like it or not, no matter which country you\'re in.

And Eik, believe it or not most Christians want separation of church and state.  People are always saying the Christians are against abortion and gays, like we\'re the only group of people in this category.  It\'s a moral choice regardless of which religion you belong to.  You can use religion as your whipping boy for all the things that are wrong with this world but most people don\'t buy it and are tired of the argument.

Originally posted by Bjorn
When I\'m around people that I know are religious and church going I do not bring up my views. I treat them as any other human being, with respect.  I let them believe what they want, I\'m not gonna force my views upon them. However if they do say something stupid, like discriminating groups of people because it says this and that in the bible I will not stay quiet.

Fair enough. Just so you know I keep my religious beliefs to myself and it is often my friends who do not believe trying to bait me. I usually say nothing unless they try to tell my what my beliefs are.

Considering most of our laws came from the Ten Commandments, we should probably throw those out too.

Originally posted by mjps21983
Considering most of our laws came from the Ten Commandments, we should probably throw those out too.

Like what? If they dont say god or holy this, holy that then despite the origin they could be read by any random person and not tied into religion. I just hope you dont seriously think people would agree to something as stupid as that.

Our laws didn\'t come from the Ten Commandments, but the moral foundation for our civilization did.

I also have no clue what Nicon is trying to say in his post...

Then ask ME to clarify, instead of making a comment to get a consensus from everybody else.

I dont know what you dont get but i was basically saying that if our laws were read to somebody, then they probably wouldnt draw any connection to the ten commandments (because they arent based off them like mjps suggested).

That, and I figured mjps was being sarcastic. So in reply i said that i hoped he didnt think people (those that dislike religion) would suggest rewriting our laws because of this pseudo correlation with the 10 commandments.

If you dont understand that then i dont know what to tell you.

Originally posted by Ryu
Before I\'m even going to read the article, I like how this guy subtely point out that democrats are somehow now considered un-American for their viewpoints in the title.  I guess that "you\'re either with us or against us" Bush mentality really is as widespread as so many say...

Republicans want the world to be black & white.

hence the "you\'re either with us or against us" Bush mentality.

Strange we invade iraq over WMD and to topple their dictator... while we turn a blind eye to North korea.

A country who HAS a brutal dictator, is a threat to the world and takes great pride in its WMD.

Strange how we haven\'t attacked them yet ?


now children can we all say "Double standards" ?