How Would YOU change the system?

[SirMystiq]

Originally posted by GigaShadow
No these are stupid people:

http://www.azteca.net/aztec/mecha/index.shtml

I would of thought that you would find nothing wrong with stormfront.org

You\'re credibility just went from slim to stupid.


Mecha have a reason for being there. Stormfront is just a bunch of white people whining.

Originally posted by SirMystiq
I would of thought that you would find nothing wrong with stormfront.org

You\'re credibility just went from slim to stupid.


Mecha have a reason for being there. Stormfront is just a bunch of white people whining.

You are a complete joke not to mention a racist.  I hadn\'t even heard of Stormfront until you and others mentioned it.  It is a racist website and I have nothing but contempt for such organizations.  For you to suggest I have no credibility because I reject Stormfronts agenda is absurd.

MEChA is also a hate group filled with moon-bats that wish to establish an Aztec homeland in the SE United States.  La Raza means The Race for those who don\'t know... I dunno sounds kind of racist to me.

MEChA also promotes being Mexican first, Latino second and US Citizen third line of thinking.

The tax system for me is something I\'d like to blow up and fix. Make it simple and not confusing by design.

Taxes, the root of all evil.

[SirMystiq]

Originally posted by GigaShadow
You are a complete joke not to mention a racist.  I hadn\'t even heard of Stormfront until you and others mentioned it.  It is a racist website and I have nothing but contempt for such organizations.  For you to suggest I have no credibility because I reject Stormfronts agenda is absurd.

MEChA is also a hate group filled with moon-bats that wish to establish an Aztec homeland in the SE United States.  La Raza means The Race for those who don\'t know... I dunno sounds kind of racist to me.

MEChA also promotes being Mexican first, Latino second and US Citizen third line of thinking.

MECha was made back in the days when the treatment of immigrant workers wasn\'t very good-not that it has changed though. La Raza is just another name for latinos...How is that racist?


A Mexican can be a US citizen. So can any Latino. So what exactly do you mean by "US Citizen third line"?

Regardless if it\'s a racist site or not. That essay topic seems to be fairly equal to some of the arguments you\'ve made before. And most of the stuff they stand for also seems fairly parallel with some comments you\'ve made.

[Living-In-Clip]

I say either legalize pot or ban ciggs. Honestly, both are bad for you. Both hurt people around them. Same with booze.

Originally posted by SirMystiq
MECha was made back in the days when the treatment of immigrant workers wasn\'t very good-not that it has changed though. La Raza is just another name for latinos...How is that racist?


A Mexican can be a US citizen. So can any Latino. So what exactly do you mean by "US Citizen third line"?

Regardless if it\'s a racist site or not. That essay topic seems to be fairly equal to some of the arguments you\'ve made before. And most of the stuff they stand for also seems fairly parallel with some comments you\'ve made.

Mexican Anti-Americanism in America

By David Montgomery
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 6, 2002

In Los Angeles last year, cars were seen bearing illuminated signs that read “F--- you, this is still Mexico.” Not just a few cars. Thousands. This is but one sign of the hostility towards the United States that is growing among Mexicans living in this country.

As the number of Mexicans living in the U.S. has ballooned (growing from 2 million to 23 million over the past thirty years), so have the feelings of anti-Americanism among them. While the many Mexicans living in the U.S. are still law-abiding and loyal, there are disturbing signs that anti-Americanism is on the increase. Worse, it is being aided and abetted by the anti-Americanism of native American leftists.



From our schools, to our television shows, to the seats of our political power, widespread disdain is shown for many aspects of our nation’s culture and heritage. We are setting a very poor example for the newcomers to our country, regardless of their predispositions.

Nowhere is this worse than on college campuses. At the University of Houston, a popular mural covers an entire wall of the Student Center. This travesty of art depicts the United States in the guise of a monstrous Uncle Sam terrorizing the strong but defenseless Mexican people, his foot stomping on a book labeled the “U.S. Constitution.” When the school proposed painting over the mural during a renovation, such was the outcry from Latino students that the idea was quickly abandoned.

Such anti-Americanism among Mexican students is encouraged by the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, the country’s largest Hispanic student group. “Aztlan” is the name given to a section of the western United States (stretching as far north as Washington and east as Texas) that extremist Mexicans still dream of as their own. Among MEChA’s more outrageous positions is their open denial of the authority of the U.S. government. They pledge themselves to be an “indigenous people, who are sovereign and not subject to a foreign culture.” What they propose is nothing less than treason, a Mexican nation “autonomous and free” to be balkanized from within the United States.



Of course, if anyone promoted a self-conscious racial nationalism on the same lines for white mainstream Americans, they would be condemned from one end of the political spectrum to the other.



Of course, these students who thought America’s ownership by right of conquest of conquest was illegitimate had no trouble with enjoying the fruits of our more developed civilization, and never mentioned that Mexico itself is a nation founded on conquests, both of the Aztecs (and others) by the Spanish and of prior Indian groups by the Aztecs.

This reconquista of the Southwestern United States – a movement to “take back” Texas, California, Arizona, and New Mexico, not by conquest, but by attrition – is the most obvious and potentially dangerous example of anti-American feelings in the Hispanic community. Mexicans intend to achieve this goal, in part, by immigrating to the area in such large numbers that they effectively, if not literally, claim the region for Mexico.



In their efforts at “reconquest,” Mexicans and Mexican-Americans have the full support and encouragement of the government of Mexico, particularly in the personage of President Vincente Fox. El Presidente is fond of saying that he is not the leader of 100 million Mexicans, but rather 123 million, the difference being those living in the United States. Fox isn’t the first to espouse this view. His predecessor, Ernesto Zedillo, once proclaimed, “I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders.” In other words, he is the sovereign of loyal Mexican citizens who just happen to be living in this country. This sentiment was subsequently backed up by the Mexican consul in Los Angeles, Jose Angel Pescador Osuna, who boldly stated that, “we are practicing la Reconquista in California.”



The dual nationality of Mexican-Americans is compounded by recent changes in Mexican law that allow even those expatriates who are American citizens to reclaim their Mexican nationality.

Mystiq - Mexican isn\'t a race, it is a nationality.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=4957

While Giga just when I think I heard it all.
I agree with BS 100% on everything he has said.

Giga like ryu said. Taxing people up the ass solves nothing. Just makes things even more expensive.

Originally posted by QuDDus

Giga like ryu said. Taxing people up the ass solves nothing. Just makes things even more expensive.

Cigarettes and alcohol are not necessaties.  Ryu is for raising taxes.  How do you think universal health care would be paid for?  How ironic you and he are both against raising taxes yet were all for Kerry repealing Bush\'s tax cuts - and don\'t say they were for the richest American\'s because I got a nice check back myself and I don\'t make a six figure salary.

The funniest part is Quddus\' **** America under his name.  :rolleyes:

[Evi]

and don\'t say they were for the richest American\'s because I got a nice check back myself and I don\'t make a six figure salary.

I got a fatty check in the mail as well. I think it was around 400 bucks. That made my day

How ironic you and he are both against raising taxes yet were all for Kerry repealing Bush\'s tax cuts - and don\'t say they were for the richest American\'s because I got a nice check back myself and I don\'t make a six figure salary.

Wait wait, both of us?  I never said I was against raising taxes.  You must have mispoke there in the heat of the moment.  Like you said in your statement, I\'m for raising taxes to pay for the majority of a unified healthcare system, not against it.  Oh, and the tax cut checks -- it only benefited the rich or upper middile class of which I am neither.  I didn\'t get a check.

Originally posted by Ryu
Wait wait, both of us?  I never said I was against raising taxes.  You must have mispoke there in the heat of the moment.  Like you said in your statement, I\'m for raising taxes to pay for the majority of a unified healthcare system, not against it.  Oh, and the tax cut checks -- it only benefited the rich or upper middile class of which I am neither.  I didn\'t get a check.

Certainly you would have been for repealing it... after all you state it didn\'t benefit you.  Only the middle class and the rich.

Secondly, maybe if you had earned a significant income you would have received some money back.  I had a nice $1000 come back to me.  

[Evi]

Oh, and the tax cut checks -- it only benefited the rich or upper middile class of which I am neither. I didn\'t get a check.

Dude...I was working a minimum wage sh^t job and got a fatty check. Why does everyone think it\'s benefitting the rich? Maybe you were just unlucky...

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Cigarettes and alcohol are not necessaties.  Ryu is for raising taxes.  How do you think universal health care would be paid for?  How ironic you and he are both against raising taxes yet were all for Kerry repealing Bush\'s tax cuts - and don\'t say they were for the richest American\'s because I got a nice check back myself and I don\'t make a six figure salary.

I was also for bushes tax cut\'s even though it was mainly meant for the highend of society. Which is not a problem and I won\'t complain about the check I got back:)


Secondly you weren\'t just speaking on alcohol and ciggs. You mention property taxes and what not. Why not just raise taxes across the board and get it over with?

I highly doubt the government would raise cigg and alcohol taxes for higher education. They barely want to give me $500 towards my tuition.

Originally posted by Bozco
The funniest part is Quddus\' **** America under his name.  :rolleyes:

I love my president I really do