Al Jazeera ranks high on \'influential brand list\'.

Are you both really so ignorant as to think Al-J is unbiased, or do you support them because of their bias?

I give them props because they show the other side which we rarely get to see. Most news stations in the west all have the same sources, AP and Reuters. Al-Jazeera is out in the field and sometimes they are the only once who CAN report on things in Iraq/Afghanistan, that is why I like them and think they are important.

I am well aware that most news networks show stories to fit their agenda better, that is why I watch multiple news channels (CNN, SVT, TV4) plus I surf on to english.aljazeera.net and news.yahoo.com. But thats just me.

Originally posted by Jumpman
First step-acknowledging Al Jazeera as a respectable news station.

Second step-taking an AK-47 and firing into a crowd.

Getting pretty close fastson! Aim it at Mystic please.

Sure, Im a terrorist lover because I go to english.aljazeera.net for alternative soruces for my news? Allah akbar!

You people are aware that al-Jazeera is banned in some Muslim countries just because they show what the governments don’t want their citizens to see, right? If Im not mistaken Mohammad Saeed al-Sahaf called al-Jazeera "pro-american".

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Fox > any other news outlet as far as I am concerned.

I understand you have your opinion but you don\'t feel that they have an obvious bias in their coverage? I mean if employees come out and say that they were instructed to skew the news in favor of one particular political party that would be a problem for me.

It has gotten to the point where a station that says anything negative about Bush has a bias but the one station that NEVER says anything negative about Bush does not have a bias.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Should I even comment on what type of people these were that were polled?  I mean you have Starbucks on there - haven for black beret, poetry spouting liberals to share pseudo intellectual nonsense.

Seriously, the question was which brands had the most impact on your life in 2004.  If you are watching Al Jazeera it is quite obvious which way your flag blows on the political landscape.

I also find it amusing that you want to blame Al Jazeera\'s GLOBAL ranking on hippie liberals in America because it has Starbucks on the list. That may be one of your most ridiculous arguments ever.

"haven for black beret, poetry spouting liberals to share pseudo intellectual nonsense"

I mean....wow. What about Target? They were ranked higher than Starbucks in North America. Isn\'t that a haven of ripped tank top, rhetoric spouting hicks to share anti-raghead dogma?

The first part was posted in sarcasm.  The second part - well you didn\'t address that one did you?

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Seriously, the question was which brands had the most impact on your life in 2004.  If you are watching Al Jazeera it is quite obvious which way your flag blows on the political landscape.

What is there to address. There happen to be people, unlike you, who do not like to be spoonfed information by the government themselves. You turn on Faux News and spout off their political talking points like it is gospel. THat is no worse than someone turning on Al Jazeera and spouting off their talking points as gospel.

You have two organizations doing/saying everything in their power to give a biased view of what is really happening. To say that Al Jazeera should not be trusted because they are the supposed mouthpiece of Iraqis and then in the same breath say that Fox News SHOULD be trusted despite the fact that they are the mouthpiece of the republican party is in itself the HEIGHT of hypocrisy.

Many people watch both(mostly eurpoeans) because they figure the truth tends to lie somewhere in the middle. Of course you and people of your ilk like to see things in black and white. You never see the truth because it is usually somewhere in that gray area you refuse to acknowledge.

I still fail to see why you want to be objective regarding radical Islam - it is pointless.  We are right and they are wrong.  There is no reasoning with these people whose single purpose in life is to kill "infidels" who do not agree with their beliefs.  

Al Jazeera is the mouth piece for this and it seems you are having trouble figuring out which side you are on.  I also find it disgusting and incredibly ignorant that you actually think Fox News is worse if not more dangerous than Al Jazeera.  This should have nothing to do with partisan politics, but people like you and the Demorats have made it so.

Also Europe is not the model America should follow - as Weltall has said they lack teeth and if an army invaded Europe they would be screaming for our help.  They along with liberals in this country fail to see the dangers that face the US and frankly, when it comes to US security and interests I don\'t care about the European opinion.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
I still fail to see why you want to be objective regarding radical Islam - it is pointless.  We are right and they are wrong.  There is no reasoning with these people whose single purpose in life is to kill "infidels" who do not agree with their beliefs.  

Al Jazeera is the mouth piece for this and it seems you are having trouble figuring out which side you are on.  I also find it disgusting and incredibly ignorant that you actually think Fox News is worse if not more dangerous than Al Jazeera.  This should have nothing to do with partisan politics, but people like you and the Demorats have made it so.

I am not saying you need to be objective about terrorists. I just don\'t see how you equate Al Jazeera with radical islamic terrorists.

I also did not say that Fox News is worse or "more dangerous"(WTF?) than anything. I was commenting on the fact that a percieved bias by one network makes their opinion invalid, in your eyes, while your favorite news station also has a percieved bias. That is hypocrisy.

In one breath you praise Al Jazeera and the second you knock Fox News... wonder how I came to the conclusion you think Al Jazeera is better than Fox?

Don\'t see how I equate Al Jazeera with radical terrorists?

“Sarmad” from the blog, Road of a Nation offers his thoughts on Al-Jazeera’s bias through not covering good news. He writes on 14 April 2004, “If there is something good happening there [they] are ignoring it, and avoiding it, even if they do interviews with people they select their guests to make as more as they can from damages, and move the peoples feelings and if we should support what is happening there, and they are going bigger and bigger and their turned to an organization here in Iraq, supporting any action against the coalition even if it hurts the people of Iraq.” Finally he says, “and we are doing our beast [best] to show our side, and we find in the blogs the only way to express our self and show something from the truth” (Road).

The questions that arise from this incident are ones of context. Unable to understand the complete newscast in Arabic, it is unclear whether Al-Jazeera provided the context that in the same unit, one day prior to this incident, a US Marine was killed by a man in a mosque in a similar situation. A man in a mosque waved a white flag signaling surrender and requesting medical aid. As the Marine bent down to apply aid, he then to set off explosives rigged to his body (Jordan Times). When questioned about the occurrence of insurgents feigning death and signaling surrender, both of which are against the Geneva Convention.

After viewing Al-Jazeera\'s imagery and sound, it is very interesting to note how the station edits its footage and applies emotive music in the background. Just as any sound editor working on a movie knows the precise moments and the musical themes to play to elicit certain responses, Al-Jazeera uses music to qualify a response. Al-Jazeera seems to me more like a passion play than news reporting.

http://www.terrorismunveiled.com/athena/2005/01/arab_media_and_.html

Not a mouth piece for terrorists?  Not inciting radical Islam?  You have to be kidding.

Their broadcasts would put Joseph Goebbels to shame.

That could be Fox News in a nutshell.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/08/1554236

A new study has found that regular viewers of Fox News held more misperceptions about the invasion of Iraq than regular viewers of any other networks. NPR/PBS viewers were found to have the best understanding of the facts

Talk about “ignoring” the bad news.

http://www.alternet.org/story/16892

And the more you watch the Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News channel, in particular, the more likely it is that your perceptions about the war are wrong, adds the report by the University of Maryland\'s Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA).  

[...]

Among Bush supporters, those who said they follow the news "very closely", were found more likely to hold misperceptions. Those Bush supporters, on the other hand, who say they follow the news "somewhat closely" or "not closely at all" held fewer misperceptions. Conversely, those Democratic supporters who said they did not follow the news very closely were found to be twice as likely to hold misperceptions as those who said they did, according to PIPA.

http://slate.msn.com/id/93999/
http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/networks/foxnews/foxnews.html

This is something which would make Joseph Goebbels proud!

This is why I watch several news broadcasts, leaning left and right to get the full picture, not having my picture drawn by someone else!

Im off to the shower, tally ho.

So you claim Fox News shows false news just as these sites do?  Sorry, all of those sites you listed are 5 years old in the case of Slate, anti conservative and/or are bitter over the success of Fox News.  This is evident in that you and others bring it up in just about every post related to news (and even topics that aren\'t about news) even if the subject isn\'t about Fox News.

Fox News is the highest viewed cable news network in the US.  Wonder why that is?  I am sure you will say it is because we are all stupid and can\'t think for ourselves. :rolleyes:  The reality is that it isn\'t left leaning like almost every other MSM source.

Your sources also claim that Fox News misreports the news yet doesn\'t give any examples except for some vague survey that says 68 percent of these so called Fox News watchers think Iraq had something to do with 9/11.  Sorry, but I have been watching Fox since before 9/11 and I don\'t prescribe to that theory and I have never heard Fox exclusively use a news hour (not a political pundit show) to claim so.  Sure after 9/11 there was much speculation on who was involved and yes Iraq\'s name came up, but it wasn\'t exclusively Fox who reported on them.  The sites you list claim not to hate Fox News because its "conservative or Pro Republican", but in reality that is why they despise it so much.  The rabid hatred for Bush is a characteristic shared by the same people who hate Fox News.  Those who hold these beliefs are in the minority here in the US thank God.

The point is Al Jazeera supports and incites the enemy.  To praise them for their journalistic integrity is repulsive.  Your comparison of the two are symptoms of what is wrong with Europe.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
So you claim Fox News shows false news just as these sites do?  Sorry, all of those sites you listed are anti conservative and are bitter over the success of Fox News.  This is evident in that you and others bring it up in just about every post related to news (and even topics that aren\'t about news) even if the subject isn\'t about Fox News.

Fox News is the highest viewed cable news network in the US.  Wonder why that is?  I am sure you will say it is because we are all stupid and can\'t think for ourselves. :rolleyes:  The reality is that it isn\'t left leaning like almost every other MSM source.

Yeah, do it the easy way, dismiss the sources. Hey, I can do the same! Use a blog as your source? Common man.

The same news as I posted can be found on multiple news sites, go Google yourself.

Why its the biggest? It shows what you want to hear, it simplifies the news for you, spinning it the way you want it.. Read one of the sites I listed, it explains why Fox has grown so big.

This is a very dangerous development for the free press, indeed it is.

Goodnight.  :yawn:

You still cling to bashing Fox News even though the discussion is about Al Jazeera... this really is sad.  

You dismiss the facts that Al Jazeera incites radical Islam.  Tell me which is more dangerous - a conservative US news channel or Al Jazeera?  Tell me, how many suicide bombers has Fox News spawned by its reporting?  How many beheadings?  How many insurgents bent on killing anyone who opposes their views?

I am willing to bet that 99.999% of Americans have never even seen Al Jazeera. I wouldn\'t know where to go if I even WANTED to watch it. Maybe Starbucks?

[Jumpman]

An example about AL-J is regarding Iraq...they never actually say the Americans. I think invaders or occupants is the word they ONLY use.

Fox is right wing. Big deal. Al-J promotes terrorism.

Saddening people are giving them props..

[SirMystiq]

Originally posted by GigaShadow
You still cling to bashing Fox News even though the discussion is about Al Jazeera... this really is sad.  

You dismiss the facts that Al Jazeera incites radical Islam.  Tell me which is more dangerous - a conservative US news channel or Al Jazeera?  Tell me, how many suicide bombers has Fox News spawned by its reporting?  How many beheadings?  How many insurgents bent on killing anyone who opposes their views?

If Al Jazeera didn\'t report the beheadings, how would we ever know what happens to our soldiers?

You seem to be very sure of the connection between Al Jazeera and their influence of the radical Islamic groups. You still fail to show how any of their reports have prompted more attacks and I still have to see anything that can connect an attack to an Al Jazeera news report.

You\'re clinging on protecting your own and narrow view point while bashing the other view point to this war...now that is sad.

[SirMystiq]

Originally posted by Weltall
So far as I remember, Fox News hasn\'t aired any videos from Americans telling American citizens to go out and slaughter innocent Muslim civilians, or threatening to kill us if we vote.

I mean, if that means I just missed it, by all means, let me know.

Honestly, our enemies don\'t hate all Americans. They know some of them are helping their cause over here.

Now go kiss a terrorist for me.

I\'ve never been to the Al Jazeera site. So can you show me a report or video where they have done such a thing. And please, show me a report done by the journalist at Al Jazeera themselves and not a video that they were handed by a terrorist groups.

How are "some of them" helping their cause "over here"?

Not supporting your side?

That is a pretty lame excuse.