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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2005, 07:25:37 PM »
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Those loose specs amount to nothing more than meaningless technical jargon considering that we don\'t know the full specifications of the system.  Really, go and look through any current article regarding cell and then take a stab at what the true performance and implications amount to.  There\'s nothing to be excited about at the moment.


i agree ginks...i admit sony got me with their hype of the EE but now i know better..not just from sony but from all 3 companies, as we all know those tech demos mean nothing...when all the other aspects of making a game comes into play...lighting, framerate, texuring...and actual gameplay...that is what matters, i\'m not exited about this at all..just a wait and see for me...
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2005, 10:39:31 PM »
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What I don\'t get is why people are jumping up and down about Cell technology, especially when they know little to nothing about it.  It\'s unproven tech at this point and could fall wayward like so much other technology.

I\'m not bashing PS3 or Sony, there\'s NOTHING to talk about at this point, I\'m just wondering what all the fuss is about?


How surprising hearing this from you. You try to come across as unbiased and hide the fact that you dislike Sony, but having read most of your posts since you joined, it\'s not very hard to see it. It colours off on almost every post you make.

If you\'d been reading the beyond3d.com forum for the past 6 months you\'d know a whole lot more about the whole architecture. I bet you\'d been wetting your pants if it was MS who had developed this chip with IBM. But seeing as it\'s Sony it\'s probably just hype right? Same old story. Because MS didn\'t hype the Xbox at all, right?

I personally don\'t get the people who always gets disappointed with things don\'t turning out exactly how they\'d imagine... If people are so god damn gullible that they believe anything that\'s printed in the media then tough luck, your mistake, not Sony\'s, not MS\' but just yours.

There\'s a WHOLE lot to talk about if you ask me. It\'s a very interesting design.

And what was wrong with the EE? It was and still is a very powerful CPU.

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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2005, 04:58:58 AM »
Crikey....come on guys! it\'s gonna be a huge improvement over the PS2. That\'s what the fuss is all about. It\'s new. It\'s not an "off the shelf computer parts" like the Xbox. It\'s progression. Something MS is not exactly known for.
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2005, 12:19:01 PM »
PS2 was new as well

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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2005, 12:45:43 PM »
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Those loose specs amount to nothing more than meaningless technical jargon considering that we don\'t know the full specifications of the system.  Really, go and look through any current article regarding cell and then take a stab at what the true performance and implications amount to.  There\'s nothing to be excited about at the moment.

I understand what youre saying but id still have to dissagree. Forgive me for not stating my reasons but im not in the mood to argue/debate right now.
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2005, 02:35:47 PM »
we could probably make the assumption that the PS3 will probably have some of the same characteristics of the PSP.  same materials/color scheme.

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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2005, 02:58:59 PM »
WOW!!!   Check out this first screenshot released of what the PS3\'s pixel shader and built-in fur rendering software is capable of!!!






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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2005, 03:04:16 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2005, 03:09:33 PM »
I\'m just trying to jump-start the hypemobile.


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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2005, 04:09:41 PM »
Good to see I\'m not the only jaded consumer post-ps2 release. :)  There is NO need for excitement until we see something from the PS3 on gametrailers.com.

Sure the EE had insane specs for its time and could handle much more floating point calculations than PC processors, but it only had 4mb of vram, it\'s the worst system for supporting surround sound/progressive-widescreen HDTVs, and it usually has the worst port of a multi-platform game.

I\'m sure it will be a kickass system compared to what\'s out there now, just saying don\'t let the hype get the best of you.

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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2005, 10:52:34 AM »
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Thinks back to the "Emotion Engine":rolleyes:

I\'m not even looking forward to E3 this year, I have a feeling all I\'m going to see are some pretty tech demos that don\'t actually demonstrate practical game performance.



You know, despite all hype and all, the Emotion Engine remains a very impressive achievements for its time. It far surpassed other solutions in raw performance easily and was just somewhat limited by the MIPS Core. Even today, the Emotion Engine is a beast compared to what the other console\'s are offering and is only limited by the Graphics Synthesizer which, although incredible fast, is only a simplistic rasterizer.

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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2005, 04:11:25 PM »
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You know, despite all hype and all, the Emotion Engine remains a very impressive achievements for its time. It far surpassed other solutions in raw performance easily and was just somewhat limited by the MIPS Core. Even today, the Emotion Engine is a beast compared to what the other console\'s are offering and is only limited by the Graphics Synthesizer which, although incredible fast, is only a simplistic rasterizer.

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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2005, 11:30:37 PM »
I think we\'re going to have damn great looking games no matter what the specs are. Just enjoy the awesome visuals that await us in the future. ;)

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« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2005, 09:11:33 AM »
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How surprising hearing this from you. You try to come across as unbiased and hide the fact that you dislike Sony, but having read most of your posts since you joined, it\'s not very hard to see it. It colours off on almost every post you make.

If you\'d been reading the beyond3d.com forum for the past 6 months you\'d know a whole lot more about the whole architecture. I bet you\'d been wetting your pants if it was MS who had developed this chip with IBM. But seeing as it\'s Sony it\'s probably just hype right? Same old story. Because MS didn\'t hype the Xbox at all, right?

I personally don\'t get the people who always gets disappointed with things don\'t turning out exactly how they\'d imagine... If people are so god damn gullible that they believe anything that\'s printed in the media then tough luck, your mistake, not Sony\'s, not MS\' but just yours.

There\'s a WHOLE lot to talk about if you ask me. It\'s a very interesting design.

And what was wrong with the EE? It was and still is a very powerful CPU.


blah, blah, blah, JP

I\'ve been to the beyond3d forums quite a bit over the past few months and there\'s nothing solid about the PS3.  I don\'t care about Cell, the numbers being thrown around right now are NOT what we will see in PS3.  Nvidia are the only ones hinting at possible performance but even then there\'s not alot to talk about.

I wouldn\'t be wetting my pants about MS, I\'d be sitting on the sidelines waiting to see something of real performance on finished hardware.  Right now, as of this moment, there isn\'t any evidence as to what we will see with the PS3.  I have no idea what to expect and I don\'t care to begin speculating based on some wanna-be tech heads\' assumptions.

Also, I wasn\'t disappointed with the EE, I was just amazed at how Sony made it such a big deal.  I failed to see what was so special about it then and to this very day I don\'t see what sets it apart.  Sony tacked on a "cool" name and ran with it.

EDIT:  I know that MS plays the same game Sony does when it comes to spreading the word on their system.  Remember the Xbox and 300 million triangles? That figure was later knocked down to 150 million triangles...anyway, neither of the figures are important because those are untextured,  not anti-aliased, etc.  Same with the 70 million figure from Sony.  Are the machines capable of such numbers? Yes.  When it comes down to actual game performance are we seeing the same numbers?  No, not even remotely close.  

So yay, the cell is scalable...woo hoo, I guess.  What does it mean for me?  What does it mean for the games I\'ll be playing?  Don\'t give me a fucking guess or demo, show me a real game running on finished hardware.  Until then I\'ll keep tossing all this theoretical crap aside and keep wondering what it is you guys are blowing your wads over.  

JP, just so we\'re clear, and to keep your panties from going too much further up your ass, I have the same attitude toward MS and Nintendo.
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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2005, 09:21:07 AM »
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You know, despite all hype and all, the Emotion Engine remains a very impressive achievements for its time. It far surpassed other solutions in raw performance easily and was just somewhat limited by the MIPS Core. Even today, the Emotion Engine is a beast compared to what the other console\'s are offering and is only limited by the Graphics Synthesizer which, although incredible fast, is only a simplistic rasterizer.


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And it\'s those components that kept the proposed performance a pipe dream.  I think we\'ll see a similar situation with what the Cell is capable of and what the PS3 will do.  

Do I hope Sony fails?  Not in the least bit, I\'ll be getting a PS3 for sure and I want it to be everything it can.  Right now there\'s hardly a platform for discussion when it comes to talking specifically about the PS3 so until some solid specs and performance numbers are released regarding the PS3 I, again, think there\'s nothing to be excited about.

 

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