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« on: March 23, 2005, 01:06:03 PM »
THE MESSAGE MACHINE: How the Government Makes News; Under Bush, a New Age of Prepackaged News  

By DAVID BARSTOW AND ROBIN STEIN; ANNE E. KORNBLUT CONTRIBUTED REPORTING FOR THIS ARTICLE.  (NYT) 6032  words
Late Edition - Final , Section 1 , Page 1 , Column 2

It is the kind of TV news coverage every president ... \'\'Thank you, Bush. Thank you, U.S.A.,\'\' a jubilant Iraqi-American told a camera crew in Kansas City for a segment about reaction to the fall of Baghdad. A second report told of \'\'another success\'\' in the Bush administration\'s \'\'drive to...

Full link: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50914FC3E580C708DDDAA0894DD404482

Most of you already know this by now, at least, I hope you do. Basically, the Bush administration is creating fake "reports" on various issues such as Medicaid and the War on Iraq. The tapes are  sent to various news stations (WITHOUT MARKING OF AFFILIATION) to be played on the air, in hopes of breaking through "liberal news media" and telling the other side of the story.

This is dispicable. This is digusting. Most importantly, this is propaganda. Not only does this undermine journalism at its core, but it disregards it entirely. I think this is yet another step to create a sense of mistrust within the American press for the American people. Hopefully we will see it as just another devious tactic of the liar in office, instead.

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2005, 01:09:53 PM »
Hello last week...

What news is it creating out of Iraq that is fake?  This story is nothing...

Before you go on about journalism, what about Jason Blair and the NYT and Dan Rather and 60 Minutes?  Funny you weren\'t around to mention those then.
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2005, 07:13:23 PM »
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Hello last week...

What news is it creating out of Iraq that is fake?  This story is nothing...

Before you go on about journalism, what about Jason Blair and the NYT and Dan Rather and 60 Minutes?  Funny you weren\'t around to mention those then.


So what does it matter if it\'s from last week? It\'s still happening and it\'s still wrong.

I don\'t understand your parallel between these fabricated news stories and Jason Blair or Dan Rather.

Jason Blair (Stephen Glass, etc.) wrote false articles, but the reason wasn\'t to push for a certain cause i.e. support of Medicaid or Iraq sentiment. Blair lied in his articles for his own personal benefit, to make a name for himself and deal with the stressors of being a journalist working under the pressure of a major newspaper.

Dan Rather simply aired a story that was not fit to air. His failure was due to poor (and flagging) journalistic skills.

The Bush administration is pushing their agenda through the rose-colored tint of these fake news reports that do not say they are fake. Often, as in the case of a news report showcasing Iraqi-American relations in the U.S., the reports are STAGED. Interview responses are PRE-WRITTEN. The mood of the piece is slanted and the truth is obscured.

During Bush\'s first term more than $200 million was spent on this process. If the Bush administration is so sure its policies are the best policies, then why do you need a $200 million plus propaganda campaign to back it up?
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2005, 07:35:45 PM »
Ditto.


To Republicans EVERYTHING is the evil works of those damn Democrats. Except of course, their false reporters that used to work at a gay porn site asking Bush questions that make him blush from his own greatness.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2005, 05:22:35 AM »
Just admit it - you two are bitter that Bush\'s plans for the Middle East are starting to work.  Oh the horror...  like I said this post is a non story.  Go over to DU - they are all parroting the same thing, yet not surprisingly no one else cares.
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2005, 08:48:20 AM »
Giga, I think you are missing the point here.

The focus of this issue is not about Bush\'s plan for the Middle East. It is about stirring up a false sense of support in the Bush administration\'s policies in America, by illegitimate means. Essentially, it is our United States government, bypassing and exploiting the "watch dog" of the American press, LYING to the U.S. people. You don\'t consider this a worthy story?

Oh wait, you have become used to the fact that lies from the Bush administration are acceptable.

I care about this issue. I am sure many others - besides those at DU - care as well. I don\'t see how this is an issue for Democrats or Republicans. It is an issue about the preservation of the people\'s voice - journalism.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2005, 09:01:37 AM »
No you are missing the point.  Bush has a majority of support for the ongoing situation in Iraq - wasn\'t that decided on November 4th or weren\'t you paying attention?

By claiming the US Government lies and not journalists is hypocritical.  Once again I point out the whole 60 Minutes National Guard story which CBS was going to air on the eve of the election to try and influence its outcome.  You referring to the American press as being a "watchdog" or an unbiased bastion of justice is laughable.

You and your fellow moonbats over at DU can rant about this all you want, but the fact is the public doesn\'t care.  How can you say this isn\'t a politically motivated issue when you say this in your original post:

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Hopefully we will see it as just another devious tactic of the liar in office, instead.


Do you really think this story matters to the administration?  To the public in general?  :laughing:
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2005, 09:40:13 AM »
lol @ Giga

Wow.
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2005, 09:43:51 AM »
yea giga..wtf is moonbats?..too funny  :laughing:
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2005, 09:58:14 AM »
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yea giga..wtf is moonbats?..too funny  :laughing:


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So now we come to the combination of the two: Moonbat. This is the human personification of the two terms described above. It is a human whose cerebral cortex has turned to silly putty causing him or her to mentally slide down the evolutionary ladder to the level of a winged rat who is influenced by the moon and wants to suck your blood. Also affectionately known as a "Democrat".

These creatures spend their days hanging from the ceiling (or relaxing in their saunas in Beverly Hills) and by night, when the moon exerts its lunatic influence upon their two remaining brain cells, they wander the streets babbling insanities and looking for their next victim. They usually first appear about sundown on NBC, CBS and ABC News as "sound bites" (see above regarding fangs). Then they quickly gather in upscale neighborhoods like The Hamptons, Martha\'s Vineyard, San Francisco and Hollywood where they plot their devious, totally mad plans to take over the world.

Poor pitiful creatures. They have no clue that we are on to them. Their twisted, demented little brains simply cannot grasp the fact they are doomed to extinction. The legends of vampires have slowly died out and thanks to modern psychotherapy (and electrical shock treatments) these miserable throwbacks to an earlier dark era in human history are slowly being eliminated (or in the case of San Francisco, simply allowed to "mate" in a manner that will not allow them to reproduce).


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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2005, 10:04:24 AM »
Regarding Moonbats and DU...

Here is a post by one of them on DU about a Superbowl Conspiracy:

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Superbowl Conspiracy?
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Firstly, I did not watch the Superbowl; the accusations I am about to make are based upon conjecture and hearsay. I do know football and McNabb\'s record, I just didn\'t care enough to watch.

So, if I have anything wrong here, please let me know.

   Did the Eagles throw the game?

   The Declaration of Independence was read during the Fox pregame show.

   There was an inordinate number of overly patriotic commercials.

   The game itself was between the "Patriots" and the "Eagles"

A coworker told me that he watched the game (a conservative, who dislikes *) and he said that the coach of the Patriots was enraged when the Eagles scored, even after the Patriots were significantly ahead; as though the Eagles were not supposed to score. He also said that the Eagles QB was doing great in the first half and then suddenly was doing worse than he had done all season.

I find this bit of jingoism most disturbing. As far as I know the DoI has never been read during a football game. This article has great points about other bits of propaganda in the game. http://www.asianweek.com/2002_02_08/sports_superbowl.ht...

See the above link.

I think it\'s "amazing" that the game was played between the two most "patriotic" teams in football and somehow the red, white and blue "Patriots" won.

Personally think this game was supposed to be the administrations crowning moment in sports. Sort of like the \'38 Olympics for Hitler.


Break out your tin foil hats!  Another favorite - The Kennedy Assassination Poll!!!!

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Poll question: Who do you think was behind the JFK assassination?Poll result (111 votes)

Lee Harvey Oswald (14 votes, 13%) Vote
Jack Ruby (1 votes, 1%) Vote
Both a and b (2 votes, 2%) Vote
CIA (21 votes, 19%) Vote
Mafia (7 votes, 6%) Vote
Lyndon Baines Johnson (5 votes, 5%) Vote
The Bush family (45 votes, 41%) Vote
The Republican Party (1 votes, 1%) Vote
FBI (12 votes, 11%) Vote
Other (3 votes, 3%) Vote


EDIT:  the numbers are off - the Bush family has 103 votes and roughly 42 percent.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3218341&mesg_id=3218341&page=
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2005, 10:29:36 AM »
Bottom line, Giga:

If a Democratic President had produced these fake news reports, you\'d be screaming bloody murder.  Since it was a Republican President, it\'s A-OK with you.

I challenge you to tell me that is not true.  I would find this whole story repulsive no matter which president was found guilty.  You need to get some perspective, dude.
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2005, 10:37:32 AM »
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Bottom line, Giga:

If a Democratic President had produced these fake news reports, you\'d be screaming bloody murder.  Since it was a Republican President, it\'s A-OK with you.

I challenge you to tell me that is not true.  I would find this whole story repulsive no matter which president was found guilty.  You need to get some perspective, dude.


Wrong.  I wouldn\'t care.  Every administration does this to some degree and it is niave to expect otherwise.  

A Democratic President recently lied under oath, but I didn\'t care about that either.  In the grand scheme of things - events like this and like what Clinton went through don\'t matter.  You need to get off your socialist horse and wise up to how the world really revolves.
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2005, 10:43:42 AM »
Oh... OK.. so according to you, Clinton should not have been impeached, and that whole witch hunt was a waste of taxpayer dollars?????

Can I quote you on that?  LOL. :D
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2005, 10:45:39 AM »
Yes you can.  I was never in favor of his impeachment.  It was a total waste of money and time.
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