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Offline Riku
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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2005, 07:06:05 AM »
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So what exactly is the problem?


No problem, you asked "what is that supposed to mean?", and I told you.  It seems I was right.
 
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Why is liking the PSP such a bad thing?What if everyone was saying how satisfied they are about the DS in the other forums and a cheaper PSP was outselling the DS?
Its not my fault if you assumed a bias.
Does someone has to be biased to like the PSP while only the people that like the DS have the valid unbiased opinion?


I did not suggest that favoring the PSP is a bad thing, and my implications of bias were only directed at you and based on your comment that the DS is cheaper.

The DS is cheaper than the PSP, but it\'s also the less capable of the two handhelds.  The cost is relative to that of the function and technical prowess of the unit so to defend the sales of the DS and PSP on price alone is...well, it\'s silly.
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2005, 07:22:36 AM »
Well if you check the same thread you were talking about you ll see that some of them said they wanted one now, yet they are waiting for a price drop.
 PSP owners in the very same thread seem excited with simple games like Lumines.Some people may prefer a PSP as much as the DS or who knows probably more but arent willing to spend $250 for a handheld no matter how good it is.
 Software games are also expensive considering PSP is a handheld.The capabilities and offerings may be enough to make the consumer want one.The price though seems large enough(or not cheap enough) to disencourage.
Even if the PSP offers a lot more while sold at the same price the sales could be similar simply because many people dont feel like spending $250 for a handheld.You can almost buy a GC an XBOX and a PS2 with the same money

The biggest complains I hear about the PSP is the cost.I havent heard any complaints like how inferior PSP\'s games are compared to DS.Both recieve similarly equal praise.
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2005, 07:22:57 AM »
It\'s because PsP sucks. K.
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2005, 07:24:17 AM »
And Jumpman is secretely a Sony fanboy because I said so :p
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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2005, 07:46:25 AM »
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Well if you check the same thread you were talking about you ll see that some of them said they wanted one now, yet they are waiting for a price drop.
PSP owners in the very same thread seem excited with simple games like Lumines.Some people may prefer a PSP as much as the DS or who knows probably more but arent willing to spend $250 for a handheld no matter how good it is.
Software games are also expensive considering PSP is a handheld.The capabilities and offerings may be enough to make the consumer want one.The price though seems large enough(or not cheap enough) to disencourage.
Even if the PSP offers a lot more while sold at the same price the sales could be similar simply because many people dont feel like spending $250 for a handheld.You can almost buy a GC an XBOX and a PS2 with the same money


The same arguement can be made for the DS.
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2005, 08:54:31 AM »
the point is the same regardless

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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2005, 09:13:51 AM »
btw http://psp.ign.com/articles/602/602449p1.html

Currently, IGN can attest to seeing plenty of stock of both systems although the barebones PSP system (as opposed to the more expensive Value Pack) is still difficult to find. (The value pack is more than $300)

And still PSP and its games are more expensive with a difference.Its almost double the price compared to DS.

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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2005, 09:48:32 AM »
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It\'s because PsP sucks. K.


I do tend to agree with that, but I also think that the DS sucks right now. Both systems lack a truly killer title, but the DS will be getting one with CastleVania:DS.

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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2005, 09:51:41 AM »
You\'re only making my point.  The cost is relative as is the demand.

The DS, even though it is lesser hardware, is still an attractive console despite the presence of more powerful and more capable hardware.  This is what surprises me.
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2005, 10:15:05 AM »
Ahm...No.Actually cost and demand are everything.When cost reaches a point no matter how good a product is the consumer is discouraged.He will move to an alternative solution even if the other product is supposed to offer less.Its called oportunity cost.Only when both products are sold at the same price the consumer bases his oportunity cost solely on the products\' offerings if  he feeld comfortable to spend on that amount.Otherwise he must decide between price differences and offerings.
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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2005, 10:57:34 AM »
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Ahm...No.Actually cost and demand are everything.


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Hold on, Francis.:p  I didn\'t mention that cost and demand don\'t play a role in the sale of a product, didn\'t suggest it, hint at it, or otherwise.

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When cost reaches a point no matter how good a product is the consumer is discouraged.He will move to an alternative solution even if the other product is supposed to offer less.Its called oportunity cost.Only when both products are sold at the same price the consumer bases his oportunity cost solely on the products\' offerings if  he feeld comfortable to spend on that amount.Otherwise he must decide between price differences and offerings.


The DS is not selling more because people are foregoing the PSP in search of an alternative.
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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2005, 11:13:22 AM »
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Hold on, Francis.:p  I didn\'t mention that cost and demand don\'t play a role in the sales of a product, didn\'t suggest it, hint at it, or otherwise.


I didnt say you said that.I just pointed out that relative or not cost affected PSP\'s sales.


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The DS is not selling more because people are foregoing the PSP in search of an alternative. [/B]


No.But PSP is selling less.In this case many are waiting for a price drop instead of jumping directly to an alternative.Althought this doesnt mean that some people dont buy a DS because PSP seems overpriced.I sure wouldnt buy a handheld costing $250.
And to tell you the truth generally as a handheld it seems overpriced for a consumer to buy.Even if it offered "Toy Story" Graphics.
Since DS is also a good handheld with a good library of games some will prefer DS that is priced more logically as a handheld over the overpriced PSP.
And overpriced doesnt necesssarilly mean a bad or inferior product.

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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2005, 11:33:58 AM »
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I didnt say you said that.I just pointed out that relative or not cost affected PSP\'s sales.

No.But PSP is selling less.In this case many are waiting for a price drop instead of jumping directly to an alternative.Althought this doesnt mean that some people dont buy a DS because PSP seems overpriced.I sure wouldnt buy a handheld costing $250.
And to tell you the truth generally as a handheld it seems overpriced for a consumer to buy.Even if it offered "Toy Story" Graphics.


Cost effects DS as well.  I can guarentee you that everyone who wants one does not have one because of the price.

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Since DS is also a good handheld with a good library of games some will prefer DS that is priced more logically as a handheld over the overpriced PSP.
And overpriced doesnt necesssarilly mean a bad or inferior product.


The PSP in comparison to the DS is not overpriced, it effectively offers more than the DS so it is only appropriate that it cost more.
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« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2005, 12:01:25 PM »
Yay, Rikku to the rescue.
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« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2005, 05:31:08 PM »
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Cost effects DS as well.  I can guarentee you that everyone who wants one does not have one because of the price.


 I can quarantee you that some people that cant afford a PSP can afford a DS

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The PSP in comparison to the DS is not overpriced, it effectively offers more than the DS so it is only appropriate that it cost more.


It is still overpriced as a handheld.The PSP is viewed mainly as a games device that can do something more.As a newly launched powerful handheld hardware its normal to cost so much.For what it offers as a handheld the consumer doesnt feel like paying $300 or $40/$50 for handheld software.And they are forced to pay more for a value pack.Not enough options for the consumer.When the price drops a bit sales will boost signifigantly even if its still more expensive than the DS.At this point the price prevents it.We arent talking about small difference in price.We are talking about double the price.I agree that the PSP should be more expensive.But at this point it is more expensive than what the consumer can handle.
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