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Offline Deadly Hamster
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« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2005, 07:39:18 AM »
Every logical person must/has/should admit that some of our laws are based on religious values.  

And why the fuck should my future children  have to pledge to "god" if they want to also pledge to America? That is completley unfair and it is on the brink of blatant brain washing.
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« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2005, 07:49:29 AM »
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Every logical person must/has/should admit that some of our laws are based on religious values.  

And why the fuck should my future children  have to pledge to "god" if they want to also pledge to America? That is completley unfair and it is on the brink of blatant brain washing.


Of course laws are based on some religious values - thou shalt not kill... gee that is kind of self explantory isn\'t it?  More common sense than religious.

Contrary to your perception - most of our laws are based on English Common Law, which itself is based on early Roman Law.  You still haven\'t even come close to proving your claim that our legal system discriminates toward those who are not Christian.  

Brainwashing?  How so?  I said "under God\' for years as did my wife, yet we are not religious.
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« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2005, 07:55:13 AM »
UNDER GOD UNDER GOD UNDER GOD

PRAISE JESUS  HAIL THE LORD

I can say that shit cuz this is a free country... all the agnostic and atheists can shove it if they don\'t like it.  I\'m not over here calling them out for not believing in something.  No one had a problem with \'under god\' for the longest time, then the liberals came and f\'ed everything up.  Put up or get out.
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« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2005, 07:55:59 AM »
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And why the fuck should my future children  have to pledge to "god" if they want to also pledge to America?


The entire pledge is to America... it\'s just a brief statement, almost like a sidenote when you say it. "one nation, under god,..."

Is it too hard to just say it and not mean it?

This is why I can\'t stand so many liberals... They trample upon any traditional values the U.S. still clings to, and is a prime reason America has absolutely no culture whatsoever.

Cry a river, and a drown yourself in it.
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« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2005, 07:56:31 AM »
In the pledge, they associated the word "god" with strong nationalistic words that are really not related to god at all.


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I can say that shit cuz this is a free country... all the agnostic and atheists can shove it if they don\'t like it. I\'m not over here calling them out for not believing in something. No one had a problem with \'under god\' for the longest time, then the liberals came and f\'ed everything up. Put up or get out.

 


You\'re an idiot.

And swifdi, obviously, no. The pledge is not the biggest problem in the world.  But it\'s not like im campaigning against it will millions of dollars.
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« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2005, 07:58:53 AM »
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The entire pledge is to America... it\'s just a brief statement, almost like a sidenote when you say it. "one nation, under god,..."

Is it too hard to just say it and not mean it?


I am sure he thinks he is being "forced" to say it.  His civil rights have been violated and psychological harm has come to him... :rolleyes:

If this country is so against religion as you claim DH, Kerry should have won in a landslide shouldn\'t he?
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« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2005, 08:01:06 AM »
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In the pledge, they associated the word "god" with strong nationalistic words that are really not related to god at all.
 


So fucking what?!?  If you aren\'t proud of your country just say so.  You seem to think everything we do is wrong - you even advocate anarchy!  Please go back to make believe land or wherever you came from.
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« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2005, 08:02:38 AM »
I don\'t say it, and I am not forced to say it. But I have been in younger grades, which is actually worse since kids are more impressionable the younger they are.

Giga, I didn\'t say they were anti-religion. If the public doesn\'t want to change the pledge, it won\'t happen. That is democracy. So if shit is happening that you don\'t like, I guess you can vote.

lol.
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« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2005, 08:04:36 AM »
I\'m not proud of my country, but that is completley irrelevant to the quote.

The quote said:
"Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
In the pledge, they associated the word "god" with strong nationalistic words that are really not related to god at all."

Which means:
God has nothing to do with the rest of the sentiments in the pledge. It is a silly mis-use of the idea of god.
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« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2005, 08:09:14 AM »
You\'re 16... what has America done to disappoint you?
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« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2005, 08:10:22 AM »
There are things about it that I would change, but I didn\'t say  I was disappointed.

I said I wasn\'t proud.
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« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2005, 08:15:20 AM »
Then leave.
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« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2005, 08:17:01 AM »
Ahahhaa.

You have to be a nationalist to live here?

When that day comes, ill be out of here. But untill then, I think i\'ll enjoy the benifets of living here.
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« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2005, 08:22:36 AM »
No seriously - leave.  Go live somewhere else and see how great it is, then come back and tell us how much you miss it here.
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« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2005, 08:23:49 AM »
....

Are you really that fucking stupid?

Do you not understand the difference between pride and enjoyment?
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