Next gen system optical formats

Originally posted by EviscerationX
Why would they not do it and then do it? That would piss off a lot of Xbox fans. "Mine can play HD movies and yours can\'t! Haha!"

What if they went with the wrong media, and support for it dries up?  That, imo, would be more devastating then not having it at all.

Allard didn\'t comment how or when they would do it, there was nothing in the way of a definitive answer.  He only said don\'t rule it out for the future.  When is the future?  Is he talking about the successor to the Xbox 360? Is he talking about the rumored higher-end 360 due out later?

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What if they went with the wrong media, and support for it dries up? That, imo, would be more devastating then not having it at all.

That was my point. If they\'re not going to implement it, then they should keep it that way.

And obviously his statement is vague, I\'m not going to argue about what he meant, because I haven\'t a clue.

Who cares I am buying this thing to play games only. There will be no games on blueray disc for ps3.

Originally posted by QuDDus
Who cares I am buying this thing to play games only. There will be no games on blueray disc for ps3.

What makes you think that?

Blu-ray all the way

Quddus thinks Sony is putting in an expensive Blu-Ray drive for fun and don\'t intend to use it...  lmao

Originally posted by seven
Quddus thinks Sony is putting in an expensive Blu-Ray drive for fun and don\'t intend to use it...  lmao

Well if sony plans to make all the games on ps3 then hey
And you never thought oh let me see sony maybe trying to push their technology on consumers???

Originally posted by JBean
What makes you think that?

Blu-ray all the way

Since there is no storage medium set. 9gb is more than enough for most games. Why would a developer spend X amount of money to produce a game on blueray?

Originally posted by QuDDus
Why would a developer spend X amount of money to produce a game on blueray?

Because it\'s cool?

Since there is no storage medium set. 9gb is more than enough for most games. Why would a developer spend X amount of money to produce a game on blueray?

Because Blu-Ray offers benefits that go beyond storage capacity? (and storage capacity is a big plus)

And besides, without defining X, your argument is pretty baseless to beginn with, so why even bring it up?

Originally posted by QuDDus
Since there is no storage medium set. 9gb is more than enough for most games. Why would a developer spend X amount of money to produce a game on blueray?

I think it will be like when the ps2 first came out.  Many games came out on CD-rom at first, then slowly everything was released on DVD (for the most part).  I think you\'ll see a lot of DVD games at first on ps3, then Blu-ray discs will be the norm.

Originally posted by seven

And besides, without defining X, your argument is pretty baseless to beginn with, so why even bring it up?

Umm what is your argument? Please _______________here.


Seeing how their is no storage medium set yet. And this technology is very new. Doesn\'t take much to see that it\'s not cheap.

My argument is that Blu-Ray will be used for games just as DVD was adopted for games this generation over CD-ROM.

Blu-Ray is an optical format, so it won\'t cost developers significantly more (if at all) than DVD at this point. It will cost more for Sony, but that isn\'t the argument and certainly doesn\'t matter to us consumers as long as the costs aren\'t passed over (which we have no reason to believe, since an adaption of Blu-Ray is an advantage to Sony and their movie industry as well).

There are a number of advantages that go for Blu-Ray over DVD:

- more storage
even if games don\'t use all the storage available, lots of that space can be used for blocks of redundant data to speed up data access and latency (data seeks are very expensive on optical media, i.e. Champions of Norath on a dual layered DVD-Rom apparently often has textures missing because of expensive data seeks).

- higher transfer rates...
...than most DVD-ROM drives. This depends though on how fast the drive will be that ships in PS3, but a 2x Blu-Ray drive should already be faster than the 12x DVD-Rom drive the Xbox360 has.

Originally posted by seven
My argument is that Blu-Ray will be used for games just as DVD was adopted for games this generation over CD-ROM.

Blu-Ray is an optical format, so it won\'t cost developers significantly more (if at all) than DVD at this point. It will cost more for Sony, but that isn\'t the argument and certainly doesn\'t matter to us consumers as long as the costs aren\'t passed over (which we have no reason to believe, since an adaption of Blu-Ray is an advantage to Sony and their movie industry as well).

There are a number of advantages that go for Blu-Ray over DVD:

- more storage
even if games don\'t use all the storage available, lots of that space can be used for blocks of redundant data to speed up data access and latency (data seeks are very expensive on optical media, i.e. Champions of Norath on a dual layered DVD-Rom apparently often has textures missing because of expensive data seeks).

- higher transfer rates...
...than most DVD-ROM drives. This depends though on how fast the drive will be that ships in PS3, but a 2x Blu-Ray drive should already be faster than the 12x DVD-Rom drive the Xbox360 has.

I do think blueray will probably become the storage medium. There isn\'t one set yet so who knows if and when it will become top billing

Say HD-DVD was to win then what?

All I was saying is I don\'t expect to see games developed on blueray anytime soon. Will it happen probably. But since their is no storage medium set I expect to continue to see games developed on DVD.

Say HD-DVD was to win then what?

Then Sony will continue to push Blu-ray as the medium for games on their platform.

Games on Blu-Ray are going to be a reality, regardless which format wins the war of which will be used for movies. Lets keep this topic related to games, alright?

With the extra space that blu-ray offers, not only can people utilize the extra space for storage etc. but if they really needed to, they could use a lot of the space for handling effects/textures and such in games. Im pretty sure thats how a lot of renderware works (ie GTA). A lot of things had to be streamed through the software because it was hard to do it through the hardware with the PS2\'s limited VRAM. PS3 wont necissarily have this problem but when people begin to start pushing the consoles (at least to their knowledge at the time), being able to do the same thing with the added storage on blu-ray could be an advantage.