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« Reply #255 on: July 12, 2005, 11:03:58 PM »
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No disagreement there, as for temco there space issue was due to HD FMV, which Like I said eats space right up.
True but what about the examples of games I mentioned that are using the extra space on the DVD for other data and not FMV?
Besides.There is no point disgussing.All we care about is how well PS3 will do generally

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« Reply #256 on: July 13, 2005, 03:36:56 AM »
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True but what about the examples of games I mentioned that are using the extra space on the DVD for other data and not FMV?
Besides.There is no point disgussing.All we care about is how well PS3 will do generally



I hope it fails the market implodes and gaming goes thru a \'dark ages\', much like the Atari days. Weed out most these casual fans that have bought the \'Tomb Raiders\', the \'Madden\', \'GTA\' games and ruined gaming in general.

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« Reply #257 on: July 13, 2005, 03:47:14 AM »
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I hope it fails the market implodes and gaming goes thru a \'dark ages\', much like the Atari days. Weed out most these casual fans that have bought the \'Tomb Raiders\', the \'Madden\', \'GTA\' games and ruined gaming in general.

:)



Yeah … because we all know the one thing this industry doesn’t needs is customers.

God damn casual gamers buying the games they want…how dare they… Don’t they know that playing games is like being a wine connoisseur.

God damn peons  

/end LIC elitist style rant

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« Reply #258 on: July 13, 2005, 06:20:54 AM »
LIC has bad taste in video games. :p

And as for the "most of that space is for FMV" comment...I have to laugh. BWAHAHA! Oh man....whew! I remember not so long ago when people would say "You don\'t need all that space!"

My...how things have changed. I look at a CD-R and think...I\'ll need at least 5 of those to back this up. Then the DVD-R arrived...now I\'m thinking..."crikey...I can only fit two hours of footage on this."

It\'s all relative. As a person who needs infinite amount of data storage, it\'s never too much. I think programmers feel the same way.
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« Reply #259 on: July 13, 2005, 02:08:38 PM »
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Yeah … because we all know the one thing this industry doesn’t needs is customers.

God damn casual gamers buying the games they want…how dare they… Don’t they know that playing games is like being a wine connoisseur.

God damn peons  

/end LIC elitist style rant

;) :p



Fuck the consumers. The industry is in a prepetual shit hole because of the consumers. Much like the movie industry, anything that makes any money gets a sequel now\'a\'days and the sequels are almost always half-assed.

Personally, the only gaming I have done in awhile is WoW and that is it. Console gaming has went to hell. This will be the first launch that I will not buy anything on day one. There is just no reason. When I look back and the money spent on the last generation, not only on launch, but all around and then look at how much fun I had with those games, it\'s sad. Very little fun was to be had.

The last good console was the DC and we see how the average consumer treated that one....

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« Reply #260 on: July 13, 2005, 02:11:31 PM »
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I hope it fails the market implodes and gaming goes thru a \'dark ages\', much like the Atari days. Weed out most these casual fans that have bought the \'Tomb Raiders\', the \'Madden\', \'GTA\' games and ruined gaming in general.

:)
You know...the more the users and success the more games from good developers sell.--->more profits for good developers.--->that includes capcom

And the games you mentioned doesnt affect the numbers of exceptional games.

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« Reply #261 on: July 13, 2005, 02:18:40 PM »
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he last good console was the DC and we see how the average consumer treated that one....


Yet the Big Guns are still unable to deliver the variety of AAA content that Sega did with DC.

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« Reply #262 on: July 13, 2005, 04:31:47 PM »
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 You know...the more the users and success the more games from good developers sell.--->more profits for good developers.--->that includes capcom

And the games you mentioned doesnt affect the numbers of exceptional games.


Except that Capcom has sucked ass as of late.
Nice try tho\'!

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« Reply #263 on: July 13, 2005, 06:13:31 PM »
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Except that Capcom has sucked ass as of late.
Nice try tho\'!
Okami, Viewtiful Joe, Onimusha, DMC, Resi4, Killer7 to name a few.

I still see lots of creativity and non-casual, exceptional gaming from Capcom
 
Capcom doesnt suck ass.Actually it "sucks" as much as it has "sucked" before.

The problem is you are trying to convince yourself something that is not totally true about todays gaming.

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« Reply #264 on: July 13, 2005, 06:47:24 PM »
While it would be nice to weed out a lot of these casual gamers that buy up garbage games etc. if we did happen to go through a dark age and games were still somehow developed on the same technological as today, the prices would be rediculous. Thats what PC\'s are here for, more or less.
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« Reply #265 on: July 14, 2005, 01:45:45 AM »
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Okami, Viewtiful Joe, Onimusha, DMC, Resi4, Killer7 to name a few.

I still see lots of creativity and non-casual, exceptional gaming from Capcom
 
Capcom doesnt suck ass.Actually it "sucks" as much as it has "sucked" before.

The problem is you are trying to convince yourself something that is not totally true about todays gaming.



Killer 7 was pathetic and should of stayed canned.

Viewtiful Joe was good at first. Lacked any staying power tho\'.

Onimusha 3 was how long ago?

DMC was good, the sequel sucked and the third one got almost no attention, even if it was a step forward.

Resident Evil 4, don\'t get me started on this disgrace to the series...

The problem is not that I am trying to convince myself something about gaming. The problem is, you are the very thing I rant about, the casual gamer who is content being force fed crap-ass modern games.

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« Reply #266 on: July 14, 2005, 05:17:38 AM »
it\'s tru that the average gamer, buys up those so called AAA games, but alot of them at least imo are average at best...take madden for instance....that game has been average since 02...gta? even tho i liked S.A. the best out of the whole series...it\'s just like all the other gta\'s..even tekken has become just average...but to be honest, you can only do so much to a fighting game...

only games that imo felt fresh in the series was beyond good and evil and god of war....and to a small extent rise to honor....everything else that has been out has been rehashes of games that try to copy other games....
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« Reply #267 on: July 14, 2005, 06:41:39 AM »
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Killer 7 was pathetic and should of stayed canned.

Viewtiful Joe was good at first. Lacked any staying power tho\'.

Onimusha 3 was how long ago?

DMC was good, the sequel sucked and the third one got almost no attention, even if it was a step forward.

Resident Evil 4, don\'t get me started on this disgrace to the series...

The problem is not that I am trying to convince myself something about gaming. The problem is, you are the very thing I rant about, the casual gamer who is content being force fed crap-ass modern games.


They are all original titles except Resi4.

And so what if onimusha 3 came a year ago?Thats not the point.Its the games that have been released this generation thats the point.

DMC was superb,as well as DMC3.So what if it didnt get the attention it deserved?It is great and its a good game nevertheless
Did you know that Capcom\'s profits fell after releasing some crap games like DMC2?What does that mean??People understand the difference between a good DMC and a bad one.

You are the minority as far as Resi4 goes.

If you go back to the 16bit days you ll find tons of crappy games.Its not as if gaming got worse.It was always the same.

The main thing that has changed is that more gamers both hardcore and average play games than before.Average gamers existed even back in the old days

EA sports games have always been crap and they were selling greatly since the mega drive days.

The REAL problem is that some people see it as a trend to moan about everything to show off how much of a "hardcore gamer" they are.

Average gamers and hardcore gamers always existed.

Its true that games without substance sell, its true that games like GTA sell because of violence etc (as if I own it or something or support their existence :rolleyes:.Well guess what.I dont ) but the good games are still there.


Another thing that has changed compared to the old days is that games are more costy and time consuming to make.(important)

the end....actually almost

I dont care what you think about me.You are wrong anyways..The real fact is that you are trying to find an opportuinity to start bitching just to show off

I am not the only one who has seen this.There are many good games out there you started bitching about like GT (even mm who bitches about gaming today saw this), ICO etc.But the truth in this is that they are not your type.And everything that is not your type according to you and ONLY YOU they are crap.
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« Reply #268 on: July 14, 2005, 10:45:16 PM »
It is true that LIC is a very bitter old gamer who doesnt think FFVII or other great games were good.....but if that\'s how he choses to be let him do it.....poor man :(
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« Reply #269 on: July 15, 2005, 04:09:38 AM »
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gta? even tho i liked S.A. the best out of the whole series...it\'s just like all the other gta\'s..


Coz it\'s not GTA4. Sheesh. Same gaming engine, different setting.

Think of the current GTA series as Street Fighter 2 that came in different flavors year after year.
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