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Offline cloud345
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« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2005, 09:16:32 PM »
Giga, I agree with you a lot of times with your arguments with mystiq, but this time you couldnt be more wrong.

The ideas your bringin up here are racist and comepletely ignorant. Our country is built on the belief that everyone is equal. Good and bad, dark or light, christian, muslim, jewish or whatever. You speak about supporting your country and being patriotic but yet you forget what our country\'s foundations are.

You see all the bad sides to the worshipers of Islam because of these attacks but the population you hear about is in the minority of Islamic followers. It\'s just that people don\'t get put on t.v. for being good and being american, so you only see the bad side. I have a friend who is muslim and he is one of the nicest people I know.

You can\'t just base your opinion on a group of people just by the bad things you see on t.v.

If we were to deport all muslims in this country it could lead to wars with countries that have muslims in the majority such as Iran or we could lose allies such as afghanistan or other muslim nations.

The thing that makes this country so great is the tolerance we have. Tolerance is part of the American culture, and to get rid of it would not solve anything. There will always be acts of terrorism but everytime it happens you cant say to deport eveyone who could possibly be a terrorist.
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« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2005, 02:43:23 PM »
Wow, what bullshit. This is what irks me about people spouting off crap from an ivory tower. All I have to do to send the notion of absolute deportation to the bottom of my mind is to envision MYSELF in a situation in which I am thrust out of this country and torn away from my family for crimes I did not commit. It doesn\'t matter that I was born in this country, that I am a citizen, and that I did honest work to send my children to college. Just because of the fact I am Muslim and someone else\'s skewed perception, I might be deported to a society that I have never been acclimate to and have all my dreams snatched out from me unjustly. Put yourself in the shoes of those you disparage blindly, Giga.

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« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2005, 03:12:31 AM »
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« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2005, 04:18:48 AM »
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Wow, what bullshit. This is what irks me about people spouting off crap from an ivory tower. All I have to do to send the notion of absolute deportation to the bottom of my mind is to envision MYSELF in a situation in which I am thrust out of this country and torn away from my family for crimes I did not commit. It doesn\'t matter that I was born in this country, that I am a citizen, and that I did honest work to send my children to college. Just because of the fact I am Muslim and someone else\'s skewed perception, I might be deported to a society that I have never been acclimate to and have all my dreams snatched out from me unjustly. Put yourself in the shoes of those you disparage blindly, Giga.


Instead of condemning the attacks - you attack me.  Go figure...  Your religion is the problem and you are a symptom of it.  If you are so moderate where is your outrage over these attacks????  That should have been your first post here - instead you cry about me wanting to deport Muslims.  

I also disagree with those in our government and country who say we shouldn\'t racially profile in regards to terrorism.  The truth is if I am on a plane with someone of Arab decent I am going to watching them more closely than any of the other passengers.  One would be a fool not to do so.  It would be like the FBI watching black people for Mafia related activity.  Absurd.

Cloud - War with Iran is inevitable.  The people lie and break promises left and right.  I fear when all is said and done - it will take an extreme measure to make these Islamic governments understand we are not playing around and we can fight fire with fire.
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« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2005, 04:46:57 AM »
Giga, I do believe hyper is Korean. And his reply was a hypothetical situation in first person.
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« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2005, 04:55:17 AM »
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Giga, I do believe hyper is Korean. And his reply was a hypothetical situation in first person.


If he isn\'t Muslim then he shouldn\'t claim he is or make it clear he is giving an example.

In any case it will just be a matter of time before the nuts do some real damage somewhere and the cries to make Islam extinct will grow louder.
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« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2005, 06:09:47 AM »
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the cries to make Islam extinct will grow louder.


Yeah ... like thats going to help.

:rolleyes:

Something tells me that banning a religion or religon(s) ...isn\'t going to  cut it with the type of nut that straps some explosive to him/herself.
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« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2005, 06:23:57 AM »
It\'s not that religion ruins humans....it\'s humans that ruin religion. We always always always find a way to take a good thing and fuc it up beyond repair.
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« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2005, 06:32:44 AM »
True.

but in this case we have to build greater bridges between us (brits) and the Islamic community.

Alienation is just one ofthe breeding gounds for these nut jobs to grow.
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« Reply #54 on: July 13, 2005, 07:30:06 AM »
damn giga,...i feel where you\'re comin from bro, and i know this s**t pisses you off, but what you\'re sayin as far as just deportin everybody isn\'t the solution. it\'s true that whenever these terrorist acts happen, NOBODY from the muslim faith comes out and condems it or anything. but that is only because "terrorism" is not a country, and there is no one person representing islam..... these people that are doing this are using the muslim faith to support their own twisted philosophy...
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« Reply #55 on: July 13, 2005, 07:36:41 AM »
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... NOBODY from the muslim faith comes out and condems it or anything....


Actually, several did.
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« Reply #56 on: July 13, 2005, 07:57:31 AM »
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Actually, several did.


Were they leaders of Muslim countries? No? Oh...well...
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« Reply #57 on: July 13, 2005, 09:11:23 AM »
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Were they leaders of Muslim countries? No? Oh...well...


No, they are not going to shit on their own doorstep, are they?

I was referring to muslims within the UK, muslims who hold clerical positions
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« Reply #58 on: July 13, 2005, 09:17:39 AM »
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No, they are not going to shit on their own doorstep, are they?

I was referring to muslims within the UK, muslims who hold clerical positions


They (leaders) ought to.
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« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2005, 09:55:43 AM »
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The truth is if I am on a plane with someone of Arab decent I am going to watching them more closely than any of the other passengers.  One would be a fool not to do so.


No Giga, one would be a racist to do so. When you go into the city, do you watch all black people closely because you think you are going to get robbed?

If I were you I would stop trying to defend the ignorant deportation statement you made and just stop posting in this thread. You\'ve done enough to discredit yourself already.
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