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Offline Ghettomath
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Can we win the War on Terror?
« on: July 19, 2005, 04:26:13 PM »
Since the fire is stoked for debate in here...

I got in a discussion with some friends (yea, I do have a couple) about the War on Terror, which seems to be the name our involvements with Iraq/Afghanistan have come to be called nowadays.

What we were debating over was whether or not a war on terror can actually be won. My view is that from the point George W. declared a war on "terror," we were doomed. Declaring war on "terror" is like declaring war on love. It is an idea. All you need to be a terrorist is an idea of destruction and a method of carrying it out. How do you effectively kill an individual\'s idea?

If the adminstration had called it a War on Afghanistan and/or a War on Iraq, I think our foreign policy might have been more focused. Instead, it seems as if our government is constantly trying to assure us that there were/are links between Iraq and Afghanistan and our military is spread thin.

Is there a way to root out the idea of terrorism?
When do you see it happening and how?
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2005, 04:58:57 PM »
No.

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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2005, 06:23:02 PM »
no way

it\'s like the war on drugs... and in the end a waste of energy.  I\'m not saying the world is the same place it was before 9/11, far from it.  You simply can\'t eradicate terrorism no matter how hard you try or how pure your intention.  American is so blessed by everything we have and the world is saturated with our pop culture... people hate that.
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2005, 07:26:14 PM »
Well if you want to say we beat Iraq & Afghanistan and simply leave, ignoring terror to a level like the UK does, then you have something like the London bombings.  No large-scale terrorist attacks have happened in America since 9/11 and we know we are their #1 target.

It\'s a painful process but we have to do something, and if the "war on terror" is helping try giving it a second thought.

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2005, 09:07:29 PM »
Deportion...That\'s the answer.
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Quite simply, the war on terror is not a waste of time, but it could be better directed and even then, it will never end all terrorism.

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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2005, 10:37:42 PM »
Look, you can NEVER EVER end all terrorism. In order to do that you\'d have to live in a total police state, and one where the government has the ability to read minds. So that\'ll never happen.

All it takes is one person with ill intentions and you\'ll have terror.

I\'m not too worried about bombs and that stuff, because although it is tragic, the havoc caused by bombs is fairly local. What if (when?) terrorists start getting more sophisticated - getting hold of a nuke or biochemical weapons? What if they put something in water resovoirs (sp)?
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2005, 04:25:28 AM »
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Look, you can NEVER EVER end all terrorism. In order to do that you\'d have to live in a total police state, and one where the government has the ability to read minds. So that\'ll never happen.

All it takes is one person with ill intentions and you\'ll have terror.

I\'m not too worried about bombs and that stuff, because although it is tragic, the havoc caused by bombs is fairly local. What if (when?) terrorists start getting more sophisticated - getting hold of a nuke or biochemical weapons? What if they put something in water resovoirs (sp)?


If a nuke was used to destroy a western city I agree with this guy:

Tancredo: No apology
He believes bombing of Muslim holy sites has been discussed

By M.E. Sprengelmeyer, Rocky Mountain News
July 19, 2005

WASHINGTON - The remarks were hypothetical but the outrage was real.

Facing mounting criticism, Rep. Tom Tancredo on Monday refused to apologize for suggesting the United States could target Muslim holy sites if radical Islamic terrorists set off multiple nuclear attacks in American cities.

"It\'s a tough issue to deal with," Tancredo told reporters at a Capitol Hill news conference. "Tough things are said. And we should not shy away from saying things that need to be said."

http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3937059,00.html

The argument that we should not nuke Mecca because those Muslims weren\'t involved is like not holding the citizens of Nazi Germany accountable for the actions of their military during the holocaust.  The only way to solve this problem with the War on Islamic Fundamentalism without massive loss of life is for the majority of Islam to weed out these people - which they are unwilling to do.

No, they aren\'t the front line troops, but when a terrorist needs medical aid or a place to hide from authorities, these Muslims offer them sanctuary.

The root problem is getting Islam motivated to solve this problem.  So far, not one person here has offered any concrete consequences if some terrible attack were to happen.  The leaders of Islam must be made aware that if they fail to circumvent this "perversion" of their religion, that the US will act.  It worked in the Cold War - mutually assured destruction prevented the unthinkable.

This is what most, including myself are complaining about - the lack of the majority to crack down on these people.  If they did so, not only would Islam be seen in a better light by the public - the west in particular, but it would also eventually put an end to this ideology calling for the destruction of our society.
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2005, 01:58:26 AM »
I don\'t think either side will win, it will be a perpetual game of cat and mouse. Terrorists will have the upper hand, then those chasing them will seem to make headway in catching them. Then the terrorists will just develop new tactics and it\'s back to square 1.

The terrorists will always have the upper hand though.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2005, 03:44:35 AM »
nope... once one goes down, another steps to the plate....

As long as theres humans alive, there will be terrorism.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2005, 04:08:42 AM »
Education will kill terrorism. Once these gullible dimwits are enlightened, they realize that there won\'t be 40 virgins waiting for them in Heaven.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2005, 04:40:45 AM »
Well, someone saw fit to lock the topic I made, so I guess I\'ll have to post it here.

Looks like there may have been another attack on london.

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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2005, 04:47:41 AM »
I was about to post that. You may wanna start a seperate thread.
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2005, 08:22:54 AM »
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Well, someone saw fit to lock the topic I made, so I guess I\'ll have to post it here.

Looks like there may have been another attack on london.

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Make a new thread.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2005, 09:41:39 AM »
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Make a new thread.


Shouldn\'t have to when there\'s already one on the subject
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2005, 10:34:44 AM »
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Shouldn\'t have to when there\'s already one on the subject


Then don\'t.
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