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Author Topic: A solution to our middle eastern energy dependence? Gasoline from Coal  (Read 773 times)

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Montana\'s governor eyes coal to solve U.S. fuel costs By Adam Tanner

HELENA, Montana (Reuters) - Montana\'s governor wants to solve America\'s rising energy costs using a technology discovered in Germany 80 years ago that converts coal into gasoline, diesel and aviation fuel.

The Fischer-Tropsch technology, discovered by German researchers in 1923 and later used by the Nazis to convert coal into wartime fuels, was not economical as long as oil cost less than $30 a barrel.

But with U.S. crude oil now hitting more than double that price, Gov. Brian Schweitzer\'s plan is getting more attention across the country and some analysts are taking him very seriously.

Montana is "sitting on more energy than they have in the Middle East," Schweitzer told Reuters in an interview this week.

"I am leading this country in this desire and demand to convert coal into gasoline, diesel and aviation fuel. We can do it in Montana for $1 per gallon," he said.

"We can do it cheaper than importing oil from the sheiks, dictators, rats and crooks that we\'re bringing it from right now."

The governor estimated the cost of producing a barrel of oil through the Fischer-Tropsch method at $32, and said that with its 120 billion tons of coal -- a little less than a third of the U.S total -- Montana could supply the entire United States with its aviation, gas and diesel fuel for 40 years without creating environmental damage.

An entry level Fischer-Tropsch plant producing 22,000 barrels a day would cost about $1.5 billion, he said.

The Democratic governor of this Republican state said he had met with Shell president John Hofmeister, General Electric\'s CEO Jeff Immelt, as well as officials from the     Department of Defense, and the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad to discuss his proposals.

Schweitzer added that the recently passed federal energy bill includes an 80 percent loan guarantee for a Fischer- Tropsch plant.

A former cattle rancher who lived for seven years in Saudi Arabia working on irrigation projects, Schweitzer is also seeking energy deals with other states, especially California.

California "says they need 25,000 megawatts of electricity during the next ten years," he said. "We\'ll give you a delivered price and we\'ll forward contract that for the next 20 years.

"Transmission companies from England, from Canada, from all over America are coming to my office and saying \'we\'ll build these transmission lines as soon as you have the contracts to build the generation."
I think this is kind of a cool idea.  Even if it\'s only a short term solution (approximately 40 years) for US gasoline and aviation fuel needs , it could still get us over the hump into an alternate energy delivery system based on hydrogen or some other future technology.  This Fischer-Tropsch method was also used by the South Africans during their embargo years.  The resulting fuels burn cleaner than conventional fuels, and the process omits sulfur, arsenic and other carcinogenic components.

While Republican governors across the US are being investigated and convicted, a Democratic governor in a red state comes up with a good idea.  :)
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2005, 01:14:50 PM »
Worth a try.
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2005, 01:33:33 PM »
I\'m skeptical.  In Old Town Alexandria people can wipe their windowsill with a tissue and pick up a bunch of black dust.  Turns out it was from a coal factory in the area.  It\'s now in the process of being shut down, again.

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A solution to our middle eastern energy dependence? Gasoline from Coal
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2005, 01:54:20 PM »
Yeah but this is coming from Montana.  Workers can live 50 miles from the coal mine and commute to work in their pickup trucks driving 90 mph, and no state trooper is going to lift a donut encrusted finger to ticket them.  :)  This is the state that had no daytime speed limit from 1995 to 1999.

We have lots of new technology to protect coal miners and clean the air emissions from the processing plant.  All we lack is the will to spend the money on it.
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2005, 10:11:06 PM »
Sounds too good to be true

 

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