Hurricane Relief v tsunami relief

Originally posted by Bozco
Where in that sentence did he say sending money?  Oh snap, he didn\'t.

That\'s what WE\'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT.  He said...  

The initial point is that the U.S. gets bitched about for offering our support but when one of the worst natural disasters in our history hits nobody thinks twice about giving aid.

The US Tsunami support was MONEY.  Other countries criticized us because they thought it wasn\'t enough MONEY.  The aid Phil thinks we should get is MONEY.

No one is complaining that foreign countries aren\'t sending teams of emergency workers or divers or whatever.  Did anyone in this thread complain that the Japanese government hasn\'t offered to send their army over to control looting in New Orleans?

We\'re all talking about monetary aid in this thread.

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by mm
if we seek assistance from outside, it makes us no better then the rest

now is the time for isolationism

Yep. But then again, I say screw it. These people was given a chance to leave and now that they stayed, they are goin\' ape-shit. Looting, shooting at hospitals, shooting at rescue workers.

There is no doubt about it, this is a natrual diaster for America, but the people who stayed are not making matters any better.  It is now workin\' on becoming a man-made diaster due to how the people are reacting.

wrong



Did I say you could speak cored?

Sorry Cored, some of you were talking money but a lot of us said aid.  Aid doesn\'t have to be money by any means.

We\'re all talking about monetary aid in this thread.

You don\'t have to be a cock about it, especially when you\'re wrong.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Yep. But then again, I say screw it. These people was given a chance to leave and now that they stayed, they are goin\' ape-shit. Looting, shooting at hospitals, shooting at rescue workers.

Who said all these people had the means to leave?  I saw on the news where a high percentage of the people that live in New Orleans don\'t even own a car in the first place.  Granted some wanted to just weather it out but not everybody was like that.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Yep. But then again, I say screw it. These people was given a chance to leave and now that they stayed, they are goin\' ape-shit. Looting, shooting at hospitals, shooting at rescue workers.

That is true for some of people but not all. The government told those that couldn\'t leave the city to go to the stadium and convention center. The people went there and the government didn\'t have any type of infrastructure in place to take care of them.

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by Black Samurai
That is true for some of people but not all. The government told those that couldn\'t leave the city to go to the stadium and convention center. The people went there and the government didn\'t have any type of infrastructure in place to take care of them.

I will give you that. Which then turns around and places the blame on our Goverment for once again fumbling when they had the ball.

I think we need to face facts, most of N.O is black people. That means its a poor city. Which means looting. This wouldn\'t of happened, say, if it was a white city.


Even Yahoo realizes this.

Some people are making a fuss out of nothing.As if every country that suffers from destructions such as fires or flooding always get aid from every other country.

For example Portugal recently suffered from disastrous fire conflagration.It would be stupid if Europeans complained because the USA didnt send help.

What point are we trying to get out of this discussion?

"Other countries helped poor Indonesia but they are not coming to the USA to offer aid"?


Not to mention that Indonesia is closer to most continents than USA is so things are a bit more difficult now.

Give it more time and some aid could be sent

look at the pictures

the white people have  a loaf a bread, and a litre or soda,  the black guy has a fucking sack.

yeah, it\'s racism
:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Bozco
You don\'t have to be a cock about it, especially when you\'re wrong.

OK, so disagreeing makes me a cock.  I think you need to grow up and get your ass to college.  Buy a dictionary while you\'re at it so you don\'t have to resort to profanity when you have no logical argument to present.

[videoholic]

Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
I really don\'t know much about the looting situation but from what i\'ve seen most stolen objects relate to food, and food relates to survival. I Don\'t think anyone is stealing HDTVs that are submerged in water.

Um, there was a shot the other day where during an interview a dude walks by with a plasma tv on his head.  He then realized how heavy the darn thing was and threw it to the curb.

Nice.



There is nothing wrong with taking food.  As a matter of fact I don\'t even think it\'s illegal.  But non-necessities are ridiculous.

Originally posted by Coredweller
OK, so disagreeing makes me a cock.  I think you need to grow up and get your ass to college.  Buy a dictionary while you\'re at it so you don\'t have to resort to profanity when you have no logical argument to present.

Now whos the one being juvenile here?  We\'re all discussing then you come into the thread and declare what we\'re discussing as if you\'re right.  Meanwhile he never said a word about monetary help.  :rolleyes:

Get my ass to college?  ......so childish that you can\'t even admit you were wrong.

[videoholic]

Originally posted by mm
if we seek assistance from outside, it makes us no better then the rest

now is the time for isolationism

I completely agree.  I don\'t want shit from other countries.  My only point was how much the other countries were coming down on us right after the tsunami for not throwing in 4 billion dollars day one.

double standard is all it is

Originally posted by Bozco
Meanwhile he never said a word about monetary help.  :rolleyes:

He hasn\'t said that WASN\'T what he was talking about.

Originally posted by Videoholic
My only point was how much the other countries were coming down on us right after the tsunami for not throwing in 4 billion dollars day one.

So Bozco,  This thread is NOT about money?  WTF?

Even if Phil WAS talking solely about aid in the form of supplies, or professional assistance, or whatever, .... for the United States to expect/demand any sort of assistance with a natural disaster that we can handle on our own - is a bit like Don Corleone calling in a favor.

If we really cared about helping other people when we send out disaster assistance, we would not be constantly looking for repayment of the assistance the next time we stub our toe.

Originally posted by videoholic
I completely agree.  I don\'t want shit from other countries.  My only point was how much the other countries were coming down on us right after the tsunami for not throwing in 4 billion dollars day one.

Actually that was because at the same time people were homeless and dying from the tsunami catastrophe, billions have been invested without hesitation on the war in Iraq.Thats why the outcries