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« Reply #45 on: September 09, 2005, 07:44:20 AM »
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A little off topic, who here can guess what\'s the contrast ratio of an average CRT?

Typical LCD have about several hundred by 1 contrast ratio and the best I seen nearly reach 1,000:1.  So anybody here know how much contrast ratio can CRT produce?
More like 10,000:1
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« Reply #46 on: September 09, 2005, 08:11:00 AM »
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And now that I can actually sit in front of my monitor again, instead of sideways due to lack of space on the desk


Then get a bigger desk, I have 0 problems with my CRT. The Only Reason why I want an LCd badly is for reading text, Crt sucks for reading.

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« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2005, 08:15:14 AM »
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Then get a bigger desk
I don\'t really have room for a bigger desk right now, nor is it needed with my TFT monitor. :)

The only reasons I\'d ever go back to a CRT would be:

1) I was a pro and really needed 100% color accuracy
2) I wanted to play games above 1600x1200 rez.

Other than that I\'d choose TFT over CRT any day.
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« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2005, 08:37:28 AM »
Fair enough. Like I said earlier before it\'s all a matter of choice and what meets your criteria. We all have a different set of standards.

My main argument actually is that most people have 0 clue as to what is accurate. When ever I show people a properly calibrated CRT they say, Yuck! until they sit down on it for a couple of hours and then go back to there 9300k, uncalibrated units.

Actually a really interesting point is this. Did you know most people do there basic calibration (contrast/brightness) on the windows GUI which is horrible to use as a form of measurement. So while it looks decent on the gui it turns out horrible on games/pictures etc... The same is true vice versa, when properly uncalibrated, the XP GUI looks bland and boring.
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« Reply #49 on: September 09, 2005, 09:12:28 AM »
Oh no NVidia, English is not your primary language too?  J/K  *Me runs and hides*
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More like 10,000:1

a good guess.  But its actually higher than that.  on my hometheater magazines that i subscribe too, a hdtv crt they tested have 23,000:1 contrast ratio.

Its actually higher than that because the equipment they use to test the black level of a crt light output read no lower than .001 ft lambert.

But the CRT 0 IRE black level goes lower than .001 ft L.  And the equipment couldn\'t test it below that, so when you divide the ft L of 100 IRE white level to ft L 0 IRE black level, you get the contrast ratio.

Say if a CRT can produce a light output of 30 ft L for 100 IRE white.  Divide that with .001 ft L for 0 IRE black you get 30,000:1 contrast ratio.

But since CRT produce very deep black and the test equipment couldn\'t go lower than .001 ft L. The contrast ratio should be more than 30,000:1 if you divide lower than .001.

Not to mention if you measure the light output of the blackest level and the whitest level.  It should be even lower than .001 ft L for 0 level black (blacker than black) and higher than 30 ft L for 256 level white (whiter than white).  meaning, the contrast ratio should be even more higher than 30,000:1.  So, its safe to assume some CRT can reach up to 50,000:1 and maybe as high as 100,000:1 contrast ratio.

I remember watching the video of Sony PS3 demo on the E3 and on the screen they projected said that the PS3 can produce a contrast ratio of 50,000:1.  They also say that how much our eyes can see.  So prepare to be blow away with the color gradiation from dark to light on ps3 video games...

I remember reading somewhere that our eyes can see up to a few hundred thousands contrast ratio but 50,000:1 sounds really close.
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« Reply #50 on: September 09, 2005, 09:21:01 AM »
Your right I just noticed that big boo boo. What can I say I\'m at work and type my responses a little to fast.

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« Reply #51 on: September 09, 2005, 10:34:39 AM »
what big boo boo?  I was just joking because your english writing is kind of a mess on that previous post.  Although better vocabulary than me but still...:D

Anyway, NVIDIA, what is your primary language?

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« Reply #52 on: September 09, 2005, 11:15:01 AM »
English and I speak a little French as well.

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« Reply #53 on: September 09, 2005, 05:26:19 PM »
well, my blacks do look black. Not pitch black (CRT Black) but black, they don\'t look gray and whites don\'t either. I have calibrated my monitor. The main reason i bought it to begin with was for lan parties.  I don\'t want to cart around a 19inch CRT. As for colour, it looks fine to me, I\'ve played MANY games on this lcd and i still haven\'t noticed ghosting issues or any blurs.
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« Reply #54 on: September 09, 2005, 06:04:45 PM »
As much as I love my CRT I understand not wanting to lug one around. Geting this beat up my stairs was a chore.
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« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2005, 09:51:17 PM »
lan parties are lame
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« Reply #56 on: September 10, 2005, 07:24:16 AM »
got no friends mm.
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« Reply #57 on: September 10, 2005, 07:53:31 AM »
I\'ve seen lan parties on shows like Dave attel and I\'d have to say, dorks need lovin\' too.
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« Reply #58 on: September 10, 2005, 08:22:19 AM »
there\'s no point in lan parties when we\'re all on fat 2mb+ lines

it\'s not like everyone is on dialup with 400ms pings anymore.

hell, every modern fps even has lag free voice chat built right in

why cram 40 nerds into a firehall/basement/etc so they can show off thier l33t gateway rigs?
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« Reply #59 on: September 10, 2005, 08:32:24 AM »
may i ask...

what is lan party?

 

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