PS3 was briefly avaible off amazon.com for $299.99

People wont be buying it just for its extra features for long though.
 I ve heard a few comments here and there that development cost could be higher on the PS3.Also if the console is extremely
 expensive to manufacture but sold at $350 this will equal less profit per game sold for the developers if Sony cares more about covering their loss per hardware sold, or a bigger loss for Sony if Sony cares more about retaining good relations with the developers.

[Paul2]

Seeing XBOX360 selling for $400 in America with HDD and all the other accessories, but no Blu Ray or HD-DVD.  I say PS3 might be selling at least $400 with Blu Ray.  Even if PS3 is selling for $500, its still a steal for many early adopters.

[Living-In-Clip]

It was either a template page or simply a guess on Amazon\'s part. Nothing more. Think of it like those release dates places like Amazon post.

wow I understand what paul2 said and I agree.

PS3 for $500 would be a steal?

Try highway robbery.

-Dan

[Paul2]

well, i bet you that stand a lone blu ray players are going to cost more than $500 when it comes out.  So, it still be cheap if PS3 is selling for $500.

I really can\'t imagine $500 + accessories for the PS3.  That\'s alot of chips for the average game player and hardcore early adopters.

Let\'s say $400 for a base PS3, and then an optional module to unlock blu-ray disc playability, a la xbox.

Originally posted by Paul2
well, i bet you that stand a lone blu ray players are going to cost more than $500 when it comes out.  So, it still be cheap if PS3 is selling for $500.

The probelm although the price is logical and considerably cheap for a piece of hardware that has Cell and BR and can do more than just play movies, people will be buying the PS3 for the same things they would have bought an XBOX360.

BR and its benefits will be non-existent in the eyes of the consumer when they will go buy the console at $500 at launch.That until movies are available broadly.Only then the existence of BR will be reckognised.But until then the benefits they will see and get from the console will value less than the $500 they will pay.

Oh well.Blame the capital system.

[Paul2]

Hmm...something strange is going on today with us all.  Even your English seem to have some mispelling too.

Well, the fact that PS3 support Blu Ray will make its goes popular faster and winning the format competition against HD-DVD.

In my opinion, blu ray on ps3 will make people more eager to buy blu ray movies when they get blu ray.  As soon as ps3 reaching millions and millions of buyer, you sure would be most of them will support Blu Ray movies and would at least buy one.

Even if movie aren\'t broadly available at first, but so are videogames launch titles.  They come in small numbers, but will gradually increase over time.  And that didn\'t stop ealry adopters from buying videogame consoles.

think of it this way, PS3 alone will cost $300, with $100 to $200 buck more, you can get a Blu Ray add-on.  Also, videogames can use Blu Ray extra storage for CG FMV.

The point is at launch the consumer will pay more for less benefits.
This part you mentioned:

As soon as ps3 reaching millions and millions of buyer, you sure would be most of them will support Blu Ray movies and would at least buy one.

is whats going to happen later.This has to do with later adopters that will pay less for full benefits.Not early adopters.The early adopters are paying more for getting the benefits of next gen sooner but not for BR movies.The BR benefits will be reckognised by early adopters when movies will be available.

We arent saying anything different.

My point is that launch sales are extremely important and although the benefits would be reckognisable in the future, as long as they wont  reckognise them during launch to the same extend as the future, people will feel more like they are paying more for less.

Early adopters arent necessarilly hardore gamers that will pay anything to get one at launch.Many of them are casual gamers that wont reckognise the benefits of BR over DVD at launch.

Notice:I said wont reckognise at launch.

You said:

And that didn\'t stop ealry adopters from buying videogame consoles.

 But the point is that these early adopters should be as many as possible during launch.The casual gamer will pull back at a $500 price tag.$500 to get only the benefits of launch games means: pay more enjoy less potential NOW than the potential the console will offer in the future.
 Why pay more at launch to get the same benefits as a less expensive XBOX360 at launch?Many will think like that because BR benefits are not yet apparent.
 Early adopters will still exist but they will be fewer.Many will wait after launch until they can pay less for full benefits.

You just KNOW they will include Final Fantasy VII - Advent Children on Blue Ray High Def disk.... 1 million sales, right there, even if it is $500 bucks.

If that\'s at launch I am sold

Originally posted by THX
Let\'s say $400 for a base PS3, and then an optional module to unlock blu-ray disc playability, a la xbox.

pay extra to play blueray. Uhh that would sure piss MM off.

enough for me not to buy one, yeah

hell, my xbox still can\'t play dvd movies
(not like i ever needed it to)

Originally posted by QuDDus
pay extra to play blueray. Uhh that would sure piss MM off.

I hope that wont be tha case