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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2005, 03:07:04 PM »
easy to port to a PC clone
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2005, 03:19:53 PM »
To weigh in on a related sort of issue, the easy ports to PC is why I didn\'t get an XboX last time, and why I won\'t get a 360.  I\'ll spend my money on ONE system, and the rest of the games I\'ll get on PC.  

Been enjoying Fable and Halo for a while now.  :p
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2005, 04:56:19 PM »
uhm isn\'t ps3 supposed to be easier to program for than ps2?...in any case i\'m not worried about this....same thing was said of the ps2 and it ended up putting out some solid titles...so whatever...
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2005, 06:00:45 PM »
hahaha the fall of sony has began:laughing:
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2005, 07:02:22 PM »
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easy to port to a PC clone
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2005, 08:34:20 PM »
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hahaha the fall of sony has began:laughing:

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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2005, 09:56:16 PM »
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To weigh in on a related sort of issue, the easy ports to PC is why I didn\'t get an XboX last time, and why I won\'t get a 360.  I\'ll spend my money on ONE system, and the rest of the games I\'ll get on PC.  

Been enjoying Fable and Halo for a while now.  :p


oh sweet

Are you playing Jade Empire and Jet Grind Radio Future on your PC too?

lol xbox is a pc lolololo

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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2005, 10:01:39 PM »
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uhm isn\'t ps3 supposed to be easier to program for than ps2?...in any case i\'m not worried about this....same thing was said of the ps2 and it ended up putting out some solid titles...so whatever...
It didn\'t cost a $17 million to make a PS2 game.

I remember when MGS2 was about to come out and the magazines were talking about how Konami spent a whopping $20 million dollars to make it.
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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2005, 12:58:42 AM »
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Lower prices equal more crap!
Ahm if lower price is a result of lower cost it doesnt necessarily equal more crap

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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2005, 02:36:44 AM »
QuDDus, you couldn\'t possibly be that ignorant
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2005, 03:10:20 AM »
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As for the news, the PS3 has been unanimously declared more challenging to develop for
Hmm, that\'s funny. I could have sworn I read someone saying the opposite thing. Bet it\'s all hype though. I mean, who cared that PS2 was harder to develop for? It still got a buttload of games. I don\'t care about dev sob stories.
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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2005, 05:24:08 AM »
$17million is the current projected cost. Hopefully, there will be more tools to help cut the cost by the time PS3 dev kits are sent.

I remember there were similar interviews, in fact, one of them from the GT creator himself, about the cost of investments for the PS2 games. He said initially, it\'ll be the major game developers who\'d be making games for the PS2.

Yet, within 2 years of the PS2\'s debut, there were a lot of games already in production from smaller developers.
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2005, 05:36:36 AM »
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Hmm, that\'s funny. I could have sworn I read someone saying the opposite thing. Bet it\'s all hype though. I mean, who cared that PS2 was harder to develop for? It still got a buttload of games. I don\'t care about dev sob stories.


 Yeah I ve heard that PS3 isnt as difficult to develop for as some are making it look like.

 But if its true I think you might care about what developers say.When PS2 was released it had such a growing userbase that it was impossible to ignore.PS2 was the only console available for a whole year too.It was the only console developers could sell a backetload of copies on.

 Now though XBOX360 will be released sooner, it already has a huge support from developers (as well as Japanese developers),its easy to develop for and there are many that care a lot about it.It is expected that it will sell a lot.

 PS3 wont be alone and  things are showing that performance wont be miles better from XBOX360\'s

 Dont forget how Sega shot theirselves on the foot with the Sega Saturn.
 They released an expensive hardware that made Sega struggle to cover their costs, they didnt have much flexibility on the console\'s price,  it was extremely hard to develop on, not enough library tools available for it, saturn programming wasnt as familiar with c++ as PS1 was etc.
 The result were revenues that didnt cover costs and costy game development and programming headaches made developers shift to PS1.
 
 At the end Saturn gamers lost and they cared.
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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2005, 07:38:14 AM »
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Hmm, that\'s funny. I could have sworn I read someone saying the opposite thing. Bet it\'s all hype though. I mean, who cared that PS2 was harder to develop for? It still got a buttload of games. I don\'t care about dev sob stories.


I should have been more clear.  It\'s more challenging to develop for than the Xbox 360.

The PS2 did enjoy alot of developer support but back then it was contending against a dying system (DC), a Nintendo console (not competition), and the new comer (Xbox).  This time Nintendo has a new spin and Microsoft has managed to create a huge buzz and get more developer support than I imagined they ever would its second go-round.  

Like I said though, the PS3 will still enjoy alot of support, if not the most.  It\'s just that in making the PS3 more challenging it made it all the easier for developers to consider Xbox 360 development.  

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« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2005, 12:48:33 PM »
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QuDDus, you couldn\'t possibly be that ignorant


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