Guantanamo detainee resorts to suicide.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Exactly it was undesirables who were "fixed".  Why?  To be less of a burden on the state.

I relize now nothing I say on the matter will change your mind, because you do not want to learn.

I am not ashamed about our past as a country either - what happened - as you say happened.  It was a different era, but with Sweden this happened 30 years ago.

The serialisations happened in an different era also (agreed upon in 1935). We don’t have people who think like that any more, not in government positions at least.

What is scary is that "some" government people now are prepared to go back almost 250 years and make torture acceptable again.

This is happening now, today in an civilised nation.

That is shameful.

Hmmm torturing terrorists or forcing sterilization on people with mental and physical handicaps...  I swear Fastson I can\'t even believe you tried to compare the two.  :rolleyes:

Mystiq - I am calling INS on your parents.  Say goodbye to them now anchor baby.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Hmmm torturing terrorists or forcing sterilization on people with mental and physical handicaps...  I swear Fastson I can\'t even believe you tried to compare the two.  :rolleyes:

Mystiq - I am calling INS on your parents.  Say goodbye to them now anchor baby.

Giga, the difference is; one hasn’t been used for over 30 years and the other is being done in multiple US controlled areas as we write.

I\'ll give you a gold star and a kiss on the cheek if you point out the one that happens right now?


As a site note: US started with forced sterilization long before us, and this continues up to the LATE 1970ies..

The history of forced sterilization in the United States is long and tragic. The first of the laws empowering the state to sterilize unwilling and unwitting people was passed in 1907 by the Indiana Legislature. The act was intended to prevent procreation of "confirmed criminals, idiots, rapists, and imbeciles" who were confined to state institutions. Other states followed with what became known as the eugenics laws. It is shocking to learn that between 1907 and 1964 more than 63,000 people were sterilized under such laws in the United States and in the colony of Puerto Rico.

By the late 1970s at least ten states had proposed compulsory sterilization of women on welfare. Similar proposals in the 1990s aim to limit welfare benefits of women who have more than the approved number of children or to mandate the use of long-acting contraceptives, such as Norplant, for poor women.

From 1907 onward, at least 60,000 Americans were sterilized against their will. The legal basis for these forced sterilizations was provided by so-called eugenics laws. Most compulsory sterilizations occurred in the 1930s and \'40s, but some states, such as Virginia, continued the practice until the late 1970s. Most of the victims were poor and members of minorities, and none of them received compensation, according to Paul Lombardo, professor of law and bioethics at the University of Virginia.

Ruh Roh..

I was wondering when you\'d point that out.

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wow...i didn\'t know that...regarding that sterilization stuff...even into the late 70\'s? that\'s kinda disturbing....

Where is your link Fastson?  Late 1970\'s?  In one state out of 50?  Something tells me you aren\'t posting the whole story.  I know the US as well as most countries sterilized people, but Swedens is the most notorious without a doubt for the very reason it took place in modern times.  1907???  WTF?

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Where is your link Fastson?  Late 1970\'s?  In one state out of 50?  Something tells me you aren\'t posting the whole story.  I know the US as well as most countries sterilized people, but Swedens is the most notorious without a doubt for the very reason it took place in modern times.  1907???  WTF?

Google it.
No really, sorry I forgot to link.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7242649/site/newsweek/
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/29/60minutes/main614728.shtml

http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/women/html/wh_035500_sterilizatio.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/views/072100-106.htm
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=109569
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/sterilize.html

There is lots to read if you search Google.

The state of Indiana was the first US state to allow forced sterilization, they did this in 1907. A total of 35 states in 1936 allowed forced sterilization. Forced sterilization was ceased in 1978, by then it was mainly used in IHS hospitals.