This is foonay.

Originally posted by GmanJoe
Teaching fire arms safety is essential.
If a kid not knowing anything about guns except

what they see in movies and gets a hold of a gun

It is patching a crucial problem ; legal fire arms possesion. That is the core root problem.

Obtaining a vehicle, car or whatever is something extremely different from obtaining an object which is legally classified as a weapon ; fire arms.  

Under Dutch law, kids are taught that possesion of fire arms is illegal ; hence they will be taught the responsibility to identify any situation where they spot a fire arm in the vicinity as illegal.

The child will be taught various ways to deal with the situation. Most commonly ; get the F out of there and report it to either the parents or the authorities directly. This kind of legislation is therefor tackling, any possible fire arms problem, a step ahead ; at the root.

[videoholic]

Originally posted by Knotter8
The child will be taught various ways to deal with the situation. Most commonly ; get the F out of there and report it to either the parents or the authorities directly.

Can you tell me anything else you can do?  You mentioned Various Ways....

Originally posted by videoholic
Can you tell me anything else you can do?  You mentioned Various Ways....

Ok, well I meant a various amount of ways to accomplish the same goal ; which is to have the weapon to be reported and handed over to the authorities.

Indeed the best way for a kid would be to not touch the weapon at all and to make sure that nobody has a chance to touch it while he/she is either getting the police him/her self or having that done by an adult.

And of course, the legislation of fire arms prohibition is to make sure such dangerous situations do not occur in the first place.

[Living-In-Clip]

good things i have no desire use a gun either. I agree about teaching responsibility when you teach someone how to use a gun and how to shoot.

But what if say your child grow up into adolescent and somehow fall into severe depression for some reasons. I might fear he/she might take his/her life by shooting himself/herself.

Or what if someone in school or in real life pisses off or did something awfully wrong to that kid. I fear he might use the gun for homicide to get even.

Dumbest post ever.

By that logic, never teach your child to use a tyenol, in fear of an overdose. Never teach them to shave, in fear of slit wrists.

Never let them cut a steak, in fear of stabbing someone.

I mean, if you don\'t agree with guns, that is fine, but come up with something better than that.

[Titan]

Originally posted by videoholic
OPh hell yeah.  But the glock has some kick too.

I haven\'t shot a handgun yet. I know they have a much more kickback, especially a magnum and a .45. A friend of mine said when he fired a .45, he almsot hit himself in the head becasue he didn\'t think there was that much of a kickback. But a magnum I hear is like "holy shit".

[Viper_Fujax]

my only problem with teaching gun control is that it gives the child a chance to get a gun. My parents didnt allow guns (till i was 18..got an airsoft gun from my brother) and i had never touched one in my life. But a friend of mine who had a dad who collected guns killed himself. And i dont believe the whole "if he wants to get a hold of a gun, he will no matter what."

[Titan]

So you are blaming guns for your friend\'s fathers death?

[Viper_Fujax]

no. i dont blame anything. sh*t happens, but i know i wont have a collection of guns when i have a child. Other people can if they want.

Guns make me antsy, I wouldn\'t want one in my home but I believe it should be your right to own one.

For the record I\'ve shot a rifle and glock before.  Was fun but I\'d rather stick to paintball.

[Paul2]

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Dumbest post ever.

By that logic, never teach your child to use a tyenol, in fear of an overdose. Never teach them to shave, in fear of slit wrists.

Never let them cut a steak, in fear of stabbing someone.

I mean, if you don\'t agree with guns, that is fine, but come up with something better than that.

well, tylenol is a necessary if your child need one.  Gun is way more dangerous and have a much higher risk of killing someone when comparing to medication.  That\'s why medication bottle caps are design in a way that child couldn\'t accidently open it open.

I didn\'t know a child need to learn how to shave...I didn\'t realize child grows a beard or mustache...sorry for my naiveness in that department.  Even if a child need to learn how to shave, it\'s a necessarity because he grows a beard and razors were invented just for shaving.

Knives are also a neccesary for cutting and slicing food for eating.  Even though it\'s dangerous, but it\'s a neccesity.

While guns are more for like sports...and they are more likely being misuse than other stuffs you mentioned above.

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by Paul2
well, tylenol is a necessary if your child need one.  Gun is way more dangerous and have a much higher risk of killing someone when comparing to medication.  That\'s why medication bottle caps are design in a way that child couldn\'t accidently open it open.

I didn\'t know a child need to learn how to shave...I didn\'t realize child grows a beard or mustache...sorry for my naiveness in that department.  Even if a child need to learn how to shave, it\'s a necessarity because he grows a beard and razors were invented just for shaving.

Knives are also a neccesary for cutting and slicing food for eating.  Even though it\'s dangerous, but it\'s a neccesity.

While guns are more for like sports...and they are more likely being misuse than other stuffs you mentioned above.

1: Tyenol are not "neccesary".

2: The whole point you made to begin with was - that by teaching them to use a gun, they may commit suicide or murder. My point was, you can say the same thing just by showing them the most basic things. Guns don\'t kill people, people kill people. It\'s that simple.

What, in the world\'s name, makes some ppl so defensive about not having acces/legal permission to an object classified as fire arms !?

(they\'d have a tough time living in a country where fire arms possesion is illegal....)

[videoholic]

But then again they probably wouldn\'t want to live in another country.  It\'s part of being "free"

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
By that logic, never teach your child to use a tyenol, in fear of an overdose. Never teach them to shave, in fear of slit wrists.

Never let them cut a steak, in fear of stabbing someone.

I mean, if you don\'t agree with guns, that is fine, but come up with something better than that.

Ahh, now you\'re thinking like a real American.

Refreshing.

-Dan

/what sarcasm?

It\'s just the way they\'ve been brought up. The fact that guns have been invented, designed, and improved with the primary purpose and use to kill people doesn\'t phase them.  Like anything else, they will point out the legitimate uses, (like a steak knife - that can be used for other purposes, but of course, knives were invented as tools for skinning/cutting).

One more reason I\'m glad I\'m not in the USA... on my last trip through North Dakota (or Northern Wisconsin, I can\'t really remeber), I remember having my doors locked, and windows up, because the radio was playing about 3 things.  

1/3rd stations:
music
religeous talk
hunting shows

It was the commercials on the hunting shows that were scary...  "Your twelve year old bag his first buck?  Bring it on down to Joe\'s Taxidermy for a first kill discount"...  etc.