Predictions for PS3 vs 360

So you have no proof other than your conspiracy theories. That\'s cool, I like conspiracies too. Makes life more interesting.

oh, i didn\'t notice you posting any facts to support your consumerist excuses

My stance on this is far more believable. I think it\'s more believable a company would be more inclined to sell it\'s product to a buying public than hold it back to frustrate them.

well, you\'re incorrect

frustrate who?
most 360 buyers are prior xbox owners and
anyone who desperately had to have a 360 has gotten one
there\'s no reason a joe schmoe gamer to buy one, not like it plays HD-DVD\'s

the rest of the general public knows that the PS3 and rev are right around the corner, hence low 360 sales, hence a designed shortage to give the illusion of demand....

So you theory is that MS is holding back supplies to people who won\'t buy them anyway?

to. create. artificial. demand
:banghead:

i doubt they\'re "holding back" supplies, just didn\'t produce them for obvious reasons (huge losses).

I\'m going to agree to disagree here until I see some hard evidence.

then start digging, and let me know what you don\'t find

in the meantime, excuses for a 6 year old console beating it in sales will have to suffice.  what\'s going to happen when two brand new consoles are released later on this year?

microsoft shouldn\'t have even bothered

to. create. artificial. demand
:banghead:
 
i doubt they\'re "holding back" supplies, just didn\'t produce them for obvious reasons (huge losses).

Everyone knows the hardware is sold at a loss.  You\'re saying they intentionally reduced supply to decrease sales, and reduce their losses?  That makes no sense.  The only way they can make a profit is to sell enough consoles to make up the loss in profits through software sales.  How can they sell software if not enough people own the hardware?
 
Microsoft\'s only chance to challenge Sony in this market is to sell as many 360s NOW, while their competitor has no product.  I believe MS knows this.  The supply problems are caused by Microsoft\'s incompetence, not their stupidity.  Any competent company could solve a "temporary" supply problem in much less than 4 months.  That is a life time in the manufacturing business.

then start digging, and let me know what you don\'t find

in the meantime, excuses for a 6 year old console beating it in sales will have to suffice.  what\'s going to happen when two brand new consoles are released later on this year?

microsoft shouldn\'t have even bothered

This is all because you hate MS.

Right now I\'m enjoying the 360 and I\'ll be enjoying the PS3 when it hits stores. I\'d rather have more choices.

how could i "hate" a business?  that\'s rediculous
i never saw thier need for existance in the industry

you\'re enjoying a 400$ console to play 5$ geometry wars like most 360 owners?
anything else worth playing is currently available on the PC, or will be shortly
perhaps you can say the same thing in 3 years when the xbox 720 is released
or will they speed up the console lifecycle even more?

more choices = consumerism
karl marx would be so proud

[Titan]

I actually find the 360 in the name to be quite ironic. 360 is a complete circle putting you back in the original point. Many people complain that the 360 isn\'t much better than the original Xbox in graphics (atleast of now). I find it funny the name 360 only put MS in the same place as they were before.....eh best you ignore this post. I\'ve got a lot of caffine in my system right now and enjoy typing

well, the 360 is certainly capable of better graphics than the xbox, but the majority of gamers still do not own a HDTV (and even less a good one, go go EDTV! :rolleyes:).

even so, the 360 is still way behind what a mid-grade PC can do

Play geometry wars huh? I can log on my friends list and you will see a half and half of Oblivion and GRAW right now. With the usual 15 of Halo 2 of course.

I have about 93 people on my list and all of them are active players. Sure we play Geometry wars from time to time, but that\'s because we have the option to do so.

Mid grade PC?

mm I know you know better than that. Just because it has a a souped up ATI x850 card does not mean it will run the same way. Consoles and PC\'s are different. The original Xbox had a GeForce 3 in it and it put out shit that card cannot do on a PC.

ummm, last i checked, oblivion is available and PC and GRAW is on its way

The original Xbox had a GeForce 3 in it and it put out shit that card cannot do on a PC.

2.5, but untrue anyways

Consoles and PC\'s are different.

actually, they are coming closer in comparisons (sadly enough)

xbox graphics vs PC?
cost is not an excuse anymore, it\'s moot