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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2006, 08:31:51 AM »
In all honesty...the u.s. is slowly declining in all area\'s...look at the loss of jobs that are happening on the regular,..and those new jobs that the prez talks about that were created are mostly fast food joints and walmart type jobs...:rolleyes:...gas prices are thru the roof and my utilities bill for the winter was above 400.00 every month..that\'s ridiculous,...with companies layin\' off american workers in mass numbers,..how can the prez or anybody say that our economy is strong?...it\'s not..

How do this prez or any other after him expect people to buy cars, purchase homes, if most companies, y\'know the good payin\' jobs are layin off left and right? Then everything in america is outsourced...look at everything in your house....lookk and see where everything is made...most likely it will say china...now nothing is being made over here, and when we do sell our products in places like china, nobody in that country will purchase our products...

if america does crash the impact will be 3 times worse than any third world country, because of such high standards the american people live by,..hell when some people in america lose their job they commit suicide,..can you imagine when the whole nation itself crashes?...it\'s just a matter of time...america may be rich, but even america  cannot afford to continue mass layoffs and continue to spend billions in iraq. Let alone the natural disaters that occur every year...look at what happened just recently in the midwest with those vicious storms....those types of snenarios are expensive unexpected expences that the gov\'t has to pay for.,..regardless if you have insurance or not.....
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2006, 08:49:20 AM »
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He tried to change the voting system by throwing the electoral college out the window. Thats a big step in the right direction I would say



Yeah, because we want Florida, Texas, California, and New York making policies for the entire country.

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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2006, 09:28:02 AM »
I don\'t think the US will fully collapse. China is catching up, yes but the population they have is still so poor and will take many years to become what the US is (a higher ratio of people in the middle class and making decent money). The US may be overtaken as a super power in the coming centuries but it won\'t collapse. Things work out. Besides, we have the superior military and that will stay as long as we keep up with R&D. The next country even close to us is either China or Russia and they still use Cold War technology for the most part. China I dont\' think makes their own weaponry. I believe its all Soviet equipment.
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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2006, 03:45:02 PM »
As much as everyone believes the WMD info was false, I was watching the Daily Show and they had on on of Saddam\'s right hand men. He said that he saw the WMDs with his own eyes, read the docuements and etc. He said that before the US invaded he shipped the WMDs to Syria, just an interesting tidbit.

As for the US, all civilizations had a rise and decline. The Romans were once the strongest, then fell apart, Alexander\'s emipre fell apart, the Mongolians were up there etc. We had out Golden Age, and were starting to decline. Soon, China will go through a Golden Age and they will be the world\'s super power. It doesnt mean America will be weak and helpless, we will stil be very stong, jsut not as strong as we once were.
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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2006, 04:07:05 PM »
i saw that guy too. Pretty interesting if what he says is true.

might be a dumb question but, can we search syria? have the UN search them er something.
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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2006, 04:28:06 PM »
But then what if they act the same as iraq? another war?
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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2006, 04:57:02 PM »
This guy went on the Daily Show? *backs up slowly*

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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2006, 04:59:12 PM »
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I don\'t think the US will fully collapse. China is catching up, yes but the population they have is still so poor and will take many years to become what the US is (a higher ratio of people in the middle class and making decent money). The US may be overtaken as a super power in the coming centuries but it won\'t collapse. Things work out. Besides, we have the superior military and that will stay as long as we keep up with R&D. The next country even close to us is either China or Russia and they still use Cold War technology for the most part. China I dont\' think makes their own weaponry. I believe its all Soviet equipment.


The population may be poor but that doesnt mean that China cant overthrow the US as a superpower. If the Chinese government has the power and money it doesnt mean anything if the population is poor or not in China.

Also superior military doesnt imply that the US will be the main superpower. The more is spend in military R&D the more benefits are being shifted from the population to a government expendture that offer nothing to the wealth of the casual citizen. Even more the country needs other sources to finance these R&D. If other sections of economy dont bring money into it the more R&D is spent on military the bigger the hole the country will fall into.

Its a similar thing that happened with Russia back in the cold war. USSR restricted trade and relations from the outside world, Stalin slaughtered his neigbours that belonged to the Soviet Union with which Russia could have improved economically, relied soleley on military expenditures and spent HUGE amounts on military while other sectors in economy depleted and the result was, great enviromental destruction, an economy crisis and an enormous government expenditure for which people were forced to work like animals with minimum income and for benefits they could never get.

Now US is losing its influence and power over many sectors in ecomony and too much is being spent for the military.

check out these compare different government expenditures and be paniced

http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182

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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2006, 05:05:49 PM »
How does our government do it...

We lost our government years ago it seems. Now a rich mob rules it.

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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2006, 05:21:45 PM »
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How does our government do it...

We lost our government years ago it seems. Now a rich mob rules it.



Yeah, because it\'s not usually run by the rich.  Like the Kennedys..  Ooops, I mean the Reagans..  shit..  I mean..  Bah.. forget it..  I can\'t think of anyone.
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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2006, 06:32:51 PM »
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This guy went on the Daily Show? *backs up slowly*

Just because it\'s a comedy doesnt mean it reports false news. The guy was Saddam\'s right hand man and they had a serious conversation about the WMDs. Just because Jon Stewart hosts a comical new program doesnt mean hes not smart. He knows what hes talking about.
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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2006, 06:34:04 PM »
Just say you saw it on 60 minutes.  He was on that too...
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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2006, 06:54:29 PM »
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Just because it\'s a comedy doesnt mean it reports false news. The guy was Saddam\'s right hand man and they had a serious conversation about the WMDs. Just because Jon Stewart hosts a comical new program doesnt mean hes not smart. He knows what hes talking about.


I wonder how much he was being paid

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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2006, 06:55:57 PM »
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Just because it\'s a comedy doesnt mean it reports false news. The guy was Saddam\'s right hand man and they had a serious conversation about the WMDs. Just because Jon Stewart hosts a comical new program doesnt mean hes not smart. He knows what hes talking about.
Exactly. I guess there\'s no fun to be had when talking about world events. :rolleyes:


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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2006, 07:07:49 PM »
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The population may be poor but that doesnt mean that China cant overthrow the US as a superpower. If the Chinese government has the power and money it doesnt mean anything if the population is poor or not in China.

Also superior military doesnt imply that the US will be the main superpower. The more is spend in military R&D the more benefits are being shifted from the population to a government expendture that offer nothing to the wealth of the casual citizen. Even more the country needs other sources to finance these R&D. If other sections of economy dont bring money into it the more R&D is spent on military the bigger the hole the country will fall into.

heh, you just contradicted yourself so bad.

If China has the power & money it doesn\'t matter how poor the casual citizen is, yet when USA spends so much on wartime R&D it does matter how poor the casual citizen is?

I\'d tell you to speak Engrish but I know more of this USisgoingtohellyettheyhavethestrongesteconomy rhetoric would come out.

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