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« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2006, 07:53:13 AM »
As stated by Kojima himself, Snake\'s moustache is inspired by Lee van Kleef.
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« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2006, 01:26:59 PM »
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Can someone explain me why is Snake standing next to Big Boss\'s grave? He never met the original Big Boss. He only met Naked Snake


The person you\'re thinking of is just Boss, not Big Boss. Big Boss succeeded Boss. Snake did meet Big Boss because in the NES games, he killed him.
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« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2006, 01:38:27 PM »
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Big Boss = Naked Snake.

Nobody can be certain whose grave it is.

Why would Solid goto Big Boss\' grave ? Solid Snake opposed Big Boss\'s world vision.

It would make more sense to be Frank Jaeger\'s grave (Grey Fox) since he was Solid\'s only true friend back then.

Personally I think it could also be another person\'s grave......

* hints at awesome Raiden cyborg ninja scene...*

Yeah but I was refering to the original big boss. Naked Snake\'s mentor ;)
Thast the exact spot Naked Snake was standing in MGS3 staring at his mentor\'s grave

Grey Fox sounds like a good guess. But I think he wasnt considered as a hero since he was with Big Boss (Naked Snake) at Zanzibar. Also he was unexpectedly brought in Shadow Mosses and considered as a cyborg. an experiment, not a human of flesh and bone that actually had life. Only Snake reckognised him as a hero. So I see no reason why he would have been burried there.

Btw is it me or do those Metal Gears sound like......cows :p

Hmm I doubt the last part though it is still a possibility. After I watched the video I am sure Raiden is just wearing the eksoskeleton.
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« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2006, 02:01:52 PM »
Fantastico ! :)
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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2006, 02:34:48 PM »
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Btw is it me or do those Metal Gears sound like......cows :p

Hmm I doubt the last part though it is still a possibility. After I watched the video I am sure Raiden is just wearing the eksoskeleton.


Metal Gear Cow. Yeah they say booo indeed. These Metal Gear Gekkou\'s are really impressive imo. The scene when the staircase collapsed and how the MG Gekkou climbs up ; awesome !

Kojima\'s reason to choose this sound differs from Western perception, it\'s moreso Japanese. The sound is from Cikada ; some cow-like animal. According to Mr Kojima, the sound reminds Japanese ppl of the peaceful countryside inhabited by the cikada animals.
Therefore he says that the sound is to mislead the player, by giving this lethal weapon a peacefull sound.

So, the connotation is pretty different to Western ppl. It\'s evident Kojima\'s still making this game with Japanese gamers in mind as well.

Speaking of which ; Raiden\'s remake is to accustom him more to the style taste of Western/American gamers.

If there\'s anyone who wanted him dead more than the Raiden haters, after MGS2 ; it\'s the Patriots.

Raiden\'s nano machines contain the perimeter info on the Patriots. The Patriots want to either retreive it or destroy it. I\'d say the Patriots tried to assassinate Raiden inbetween the MGS2 - MGS4 timeline.

He\'s assumed dead, hence Snake saluting a (his) grave, but revived as cyborg ninja and resurfaces as such during MGS4 storyline.

but hey, that\'s just my theory....
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« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2006, 02:48:15 PM »
Nice thought by Hideo :)

Also I think you could be right about Raiden. Good thinking.

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« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2006, 03:06:54 PM »
I third that about Raiden. Its a shame there wasn\'t a game released that you played as him where he got like that, maybe a minigame. Feel bad for Rose and the child though, lol.
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« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2006, 03:10:07 PM »
It\'s still just a theory heheh.

Most ppl think it\'s Big Boss\' or Grey Fox\'s grave. Some even think that Kojima is lying and that Raiden will be partially playable afterall.

Look at his feet ; I have a hard time believing any normal human feet would fit in there. I\'d say all of Raiden left is his torso, his head and his thighs, the rest is robocop.

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« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2006, 03:11:59 PM »
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It\'s still just a theory heheh.

Most ppl think it\'s Big Boss\' or Grey Fox\'s grave. Some even think that Kojima is lying and that Raiden will be partially playable afterall.


Raiden looking like that I actually would like to partially play him, if not a whole second game where it follows simultaneously with Snake. Like you play as Snake then beat the game and play as Raiden in his own thing or visa versa.
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« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2006, 06:36:00 PM »
haha its funny that when everybody got the chance to play as Raiden they hated him and now that he is probably not playable everyone wants to play as him :laughing:

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« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2006, 06:54:53 PM »
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As stated by Kojima himself, Snake\'s moustache is inspired by Lee van Kleef.


And, Revolver Ocelot was inspired by Lee van KLeef. I love the MGS series, and Konami. Bring on a PS3 High-def Silent Hill!
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« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2006, 06:59:08 PM »
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And, Revolver Ocelot was inspired by Lee van KLeef. I love the MGS series, and Konami. Bring on a PS3 High-def Silent Hill!

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« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2006, 10:52:53 AM »
Kojima would do wise to make MGS4 the last MGS, otherwise we get Milking Gear Solid.

The SH series already has part #4. Imho Team Silent shouldn\'t stay silent,  but try something totally new.
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« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2006, 11:07:26 AM »
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I wouldn\'t mind a new Zone of the Enders game.

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« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2006, 03:18:51 PM »
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haha its funny that when everybody got the chance to play as Raiden they hated him and now that he is probably not playable everyone wants to play as him :laughing:


That\'s because he looked and acted like a pansy in MGS2. Now he looks pretty badass and doesn\'t act like such a pansy.
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