Nintendo UK responds to PS3 controller

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LIC, you keep saying ps3 shouldn\'t include blu ray, and you said that ps2 shouldn\'t include dvd drive, but did you realize how many games now uses the dvd format for ps2?  Even sony said that all ps3 games will "only" be in blu ray formats to keep away the hackers, at least for a while because blu ray discs are expensive and much harder to hack.

I said it shouldn\'t have included DVD-PLAYBACK. Get the facts straight. The DVD playback was piss-poor, it was an after thought and people bought into it. Infact, it is what sold the PS2 in Japan.


And if they can\'t get the console down to a decent price, then fine, cut Blu-Ray. I have no problem with it being cut, but then again, that\'s because I have no intentions of buyin\' a Blu-Ray player and I have no interest in the format in general.

And as for the whole think of how many PS2 games use DVD\'s - yeah, now name how many actually use the full storage of the DVD format....... Just because it uses the DVD format doesn\'t mean it fills up the disc, the same will apply to Blu-Ray. We all know the only reason Blu-Ray is goin in the PS3 is because of the movie format war.

[Titan]

About the Atari Jaguar and Mega CD add on..

Ow boy ....  Sega\'s add on\'s like the Mega CD and 32X are the things which pissed off , once Sega fans like me and many others.

The Atari Jaguar ? Even though the market has changed and one cannot make a direct comparison... buying a PS3 is ALOT wiser choice.

Why would they piss you off? Its just that, and ADD-ON. You don\'t have to buy it if you don\'t want to. Its not like it made the Genesis any better or faster or anything. Don\'t want Sega CD? Don\'t buy it.

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Why would they piss you off? Its just that, and ADD-ON. You don\'t have to buy it if you don\'t want to. Its not like it made the Genesis any better or faster or anything. Don\'t want Sega CD? Don\'t buy it.

More true words never spoken.

Still, on his point, the 32X was *suppose* to be a cheap way to upgrade to the 32bit era, for those who could not afford the Sega Saturn. And on the other hand, I can also see who being upset that support was not there after spending the money on it.

I bought both. Am I upset? Nah. I actually got some enjoyment out of both, even though neither was ground breaking or worth their price tag.

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More true words never spoken.

Still, on his point, the 32X was *suppose* to be a cheap way to upgrade to the 32bit era, for those who could not afford the Sega Saturn. And on the other hand, I can also see who being upset that support was not there after spending the money on it.

I bought both. Am I upset? Nah. I actually got some enjoyment out of both, even though neither was ground breaking or worth their price tag.

How much were they? I remember my cousin had both and I had fun playign them but forgot the prices.

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Sega 32x - $150

Sega CD  - Not sure, but I want to say around $400 ? I bought my Sega CD used. Wikipedia.com didn\'t have the North American price tag.

Sega Saturn - $400 (over-priced).

Also not sure about price of the Sega CDX , but I know it was the best looking system in along time.

The DVD playback was piss-poor,

only like 1% of all PS2 owners feel this way, and it\'s usualy a last ditch effort at a moot argument

10\'s of millions bought it as a DVD player, no need to disagree

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I used it as a DVD player for quite some time before I moved onto something better.

Also not sure about price of the Sega CDX , but I know it was the best looking system in along time.

Man, I totally forgot about that thing.

The SEGA Nomad was pretty cool. I just sold it on eBay recently. I kind of wish that I didn\'t. :/

best looking console award has to go to (ignoring the controller)

only like 1% of all PS2 owners feel this way, and it\'s usualy a last ditch effort at a moot argument

10\'s of millions bought it as a DVD player, no need to disagree

are you joking?  There were better, cheaper DVD players by the time PS2 came out.  You can pick up a $50 DVD player right now that outclasses PS2 by a long shot when it comes to DVD playback.

best looking console award has to go to (ignoring the controller)

Ah the good old memories. *sniff*

But I disagree. That was ugly

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You can pick up a $50 DVD player right now that outclasses PS2 by a long shot when it comes to DVD playback.

But that\'s now and not 6-7 years ago.

are you joking? There were better, cheaper DVD players by the time PS2 came out.

Yeah, but the point was that it was a game system/DVD player all in one package and that appealed to a lot of people.

you didn\'t have to reply to his nonsense

But that\'s now and not 6-7 years ago.


Yeah, but the point was that it was a game system/DVD player all in one package and that appealed to a lot of people.

You could in fact pick up a cheaper DVD player than a $300 ps2 back in 2000, and with better playback quality.  I should know, I had two.  If I remember correctly, one was around $150 and the other around $180.  Oh, and those came with a remote and didn\'t require 2,000 kb of space on a seperately purchased memory card.

I don\'t know one person who bought a PS2 as a DVD player.  I know those who used them as a dvd player, and why wouldn\'t they, but no one who said "cool, I\'m getting a dvd player AND a game console.  teh neat!!"

The Atari was ugly. Too flat. And who was the genius that made the games go in backwards so you couldn\'t see the picture?
 
-Dan

Why would they piss you off? Its just that, and ADD-ON. You don\'t have to buy it if you don\'t want to. Its not like it made the Genesis any better or faster or anything. Don\'t want Sega CD? Don\'t buy it.

C\'mon, the 16bit consoles were past their peak (ok, maybe SNES kept some momentum a year longer) ; but Sega\'s Megadrive (Genesis for USA ppl) was in a serious slump.

Then Sega introduced Mega CD, hoping to bring back gaming quality into the Megadrive games library. At a high cost it didn\'t bring anything substantial and it flopped.

Then Sega decided to introduce Megadrive 2 ; basically the same hardware in another box. They even made a special Megadrive MegaCD 2 add on for it.

To add insult to injury they then introduced the 32X at the price of 1,5 Megadrive price. Did it get us true 32 bit gaming ? Hell no !

So, they pumped all these manufacturing and development costs into these devices while they neglected to use all that budget to make better games again to get the Megadrive library out of that deep slump.

So yes, as a Megadrive owner it was very sad to see it drag on for so long even though, fortunately,  i did NOT buy those stupid expensive add ons. Their raison d\'etre should be to being able to play an improved games library ; which they did not deliver. It was game over for Sega, they dropped the ball ; Then N64 and PS1 took over and ran with it.

Keeping above mentioned in mind, there is ZERO, i repeat ZERO reason to bash PS3 so early.

PS3 is another situation ; a transition to next gen. Sega sat out their Megadrive slump until the \'next gen\' Saturn, while Sony\'s just making a transition from a succesfull gaming era to another.

Besides, Blu-Ray is NO add on. It is integral to PS3 just like the Cell technlogy is. Alot of people are sceptic, yes, because they think "seeing is believing" most of the time. They think on a real short term basis.

Why do you think Intel has multicore architecture similair to Cell tech on their future roadmaps ? Why do programmers like Tim Sweeney see such tech as the dominant force in the future ?

The evidence, the \'fruits\' of PS3\'s architecture - with Cell & Blu Ray as intergral ingredients - might not be extremely evident as of now ; but wait and see not too far off.

The only sure thing we can say is that 3D0, NeoGeo, Atari Jaguar, Sega 32X and Mega CD1 & 2 have a proven flop-track record. Bad choices from both producer\'s and consumer\'s side.